The "All New" Let's Not Debate Religion Thread

[habbywall]

Let's get the religious debate out of RSU.

I would like to make this the official place to not debate religion. No need to hijack threads to not debate religion (like the atheists, myself not included, have done in the past). Because this is the "official" place for that kind of discussion. Be nice.

Round One. Ding...

[forrestunifreak]

**sitting here not debating religion**

[James_Potter]

have you found Jesus yet?

[red_rider]

Where do Atheists believe they go when they die? This is a serious question that I really would like those who consider themselves atheists to answer? Oh yeah, where do atheists believe that everything in the world came from? Please, only intelligent and serious answers only! There is enough flippant religious crap on this forum already!!!:)

[underdog]

TSK! TSK! TSK! I think somebody's trying to debate religions here:( You should be ashamed. Let's not debate politics here either. There are already way too many threads about that too. Most people tend to be at a loss for anything to talk about if they're not talking about religion or politics.

Would it be OK to debate fabrics here? How about cotton vs. polyester?

[James_Potter]

Definitely cotton...polyster is fake and uncomfortable.

[bmemike]

Where do Atheists believe they go when they die? This is a serious question that I really would like those who consider themselves atheists to answer? Oh yeah, where do atheists believe that everything in the world came from? Please, only intelligent and serious answers only! There is enough flippant religious crap on this forum already!!!:)

When I die, I die. I don't "go" anywhere except into a box or an oven or shot into space or whatever they'll do to me when I die. There's nothing to it. Don't feel bad, many people have a hard time with the concept of "nothingness", but that's what happens.

Recorded history goes back only a speck of the lifetime of the earth. In that time, we've seen so many things evolve - technology, societies, animals, ecosystems, etc. that it's silly to assume that when you extend the timeline thousands of times over that great biological changes aren't possible.

If you're more curious about the "where did the universe come from" question, then I'm totally comfortable with the idea that human beings are simply not smart enough to be able to explain how it came about. We know what happened millionths of a second after the big bang, but are not sure about what happened *when* it happened - I'm confident that we'll figure this out in time, but in no way does "not knowing right now" prove that it didn't happen.

Only a few hundred years ago there was no such thing as electricity and gravity was a completely esoteric concept. Those things surely did exist even though we didn't understand them at the time.

In my opinion, religion is a means to explain the things that rational thought and observation are not capable of explaining. Usually we find that over time science catches up and explainations are forthcoming, but that doesn't mean that someone can't come up with a new question that science does not yet understand.

Nobody will ever know all the answers - which is great, because we as a people better ourselves in trying to find them - but not all of them NEED answers. And making ones up that have zero basis in reality or observable fact helps noone.

This is in no way meant to offend anyone - just voicing my opinion.

[red_rider]

TSK! TSK! TSK! I think somebody's trying to debate religions here:( You should be ashamed. Let's not debate politics here either. There are already way too many threads about that too. Most people tend to be at a loss for anything to talk about if they're not talking about religion or politics.

Would it be OK to debate fabrics here? How about cotton vs. polyester?
TSK TSK TSK yourself! If you dont have answers you are willing to give, go find a forum about fabrics! I ask a legitimate ? for anyone to answer if they want! Once again your answer was "flippant"!

[habbywall]

Where do Atheists believe they go when they die? This is a serious question that I really would like those who consider themselves atheists to answer? Oh yeah, where do atheists believe that everything in the world came from? Please, only intelligent and serious answers only! There is enough flippant religious crap on this forum already!!!:)

hey hey, i will not alow this in my thread go away!

definitly cotton, its natural, i dont do this man made crap

[red_rider]

When I die, I die. I don't "go" anywhere except into a box or an oven or shot into space or whatever they'll do to me when I die. There's nothing to it. Don't feel bad, many people have a hard time with the concept of "nothingness", but that's what happens.

Recorded history goes back only a speck of the lifetime of the earth. In that time, we've seen so many things evolve - technology, societies, animals, ecosystems, etc. that it's silly to assume that when you extend the timeline thousands of times over that great biological changes aren't possible.

If you're more curious about the "where did the universe come from" question, then I'm totally comfortable with the idea that human beings are simply not smart enough to be able to explain how it came about. We know what happened millionths of a second after the big bang, but are not sure about what happened *when* it happened - I'm confident that we'll figure this out in time, but in no way does "not knowing right now" prove that it didn't happen.

Only a few hundred years ago there was no such thing as electricity and gravity was a completely esoteric concept. Those things surely did exist even though we didn't understand them at the time.

In my opinion, religion is a means to explain the things that rational thought and observation are not capable of explaining. Usually we find that over time science catches up and explainations are forthcoming, but that doesn't mean that someone can't come up with a new question that science does not yet understand.

Nobody will ever know all the answers - which is great, because we as a people better ourselves in trying to find them - but not all of them NEED answers. And making ones up that have zero basis in reality or observable fact helps noone.

This is in no way meant to offend anyone - just voicing my opinion.
Thanks for an INTELLIGENT and polite answer!:)
Oh yea, this is a public thread even though you started it Habbywall!:eek:

[habbywall]

yeah. but did you not read the first post?

[uni57]

hey hey, i will not alow this in my thread go away!

Oh yea, this is a public thread even though you started it Habbywall!:eek:habbywall is merely pointing out that the purpose of this thread is to NOT debate religion. There is a (very) similar thread where the purpose is to debate religion (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49106). Everything has its place.

Although, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to actually do in this thread. :) habbywall?

[habbywall]

well, im not sure what you do, maybe gilby does

[UniBrier]

Hey, I just found a great quote to take out of context:

Only a few hundred years ago there was no such thing as electricity and gravity










This post for humorous purposes only. No personal offence intended.

[bmemike]

Hey, I just found a great quote to take out of context:

Heh - none taken. Unlike many people, I can laugh at myself and the humor of others :)

[podzol]

OKAY:

Here is a way cool fact (of the scientific sort. I qualify to prevent any debate. It is not an absolute fact, just a scientific fact so Jesus people be quiet or you'll have trouble freemounting and your "nut guard"/handle will droop and get loose and fall off when you are trying to impress a girl.)

The (scientific) Fact established on the basis of morphology, anatomy, physiology, genetics, ontogeny and phylogeny:
Elephants evolved from water adapted sea mammals that evolved from land adapted mammals, that evolved from aquatic vertebrates.

It's just the most amazing example of the radiation of species and convergent and divergent evolution I have ever heard about!! Crazy! WOW!

Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.

P.S. I just posted this then I think I accidentally deleted it. Sorry if it shows up twice...

[dorkybarb]

so not debating religion.
umm, then what are we supposed to do then?
like just sit around and twiddle our thumbs?
but no one can see you do that online. so.... im sitting here not debating religion. instead i will be going and doing all of my stupid studying for finals and finishing up all my huge papers for the rest of the classes i have.

so, off i go to not discuss religion and hate my professors.

[red_rider]

so not debating religion.
umm, then what are we supposed to do then?
like just sit around and twiddle our thumbs?
but no one can see you do that online. so.... im sitting here not debating religion. instead i will be going and doing all of my stupid studying for finals and finishing up all my huge papers for the rest of the classes i have.

so, off i go to not discuss religion and hate my professors.
hahaha:D , I like your sense of humor!!!

[UniBrier]

Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.Is that still being tought? I thought it was disproven.

Ontology Recapitulates Philology on the other hand...

[podzol]

Is that still being tought? I thought it was disproven.

Ontology Recapitulates Philology on the other hand...

I think of it just as an elegant model, I know it doesn't always hold perfectly true. Fetal humans and embryonic fish look a lot alike tho...

[dorkybarb]

hahaha:D , I like your sense of humor!!!
its nice to know that my not discussing religion humor is not wasted on everyone who is in the fora not discussing religion. :)

red, i think i have decided that you are going to be my friend.
interested?
its really not much. and honestly kinda boring. but hey, why not right?

[red_rider]

its nice to know that my not discussing religion humor is not wasted on everyone who is in the fora not discussing religion. :)

red, i think i have decided that you are going to be my friend.
interested?
its really not much. and honestly kinda boring. but hey, why not right?
I'd be happy to be your friend, and any friendship is valuable!!:)

[forrestunifreak]

OKAY:

Elephants evolved from water adapted sea mammals that evolved from land adapted mammals, that evolved from aquatic vertebrates.

It's just the most amazing example of the radiation of species and convergent and divergent evolution I have ever heard about!! Crazy! WOW!


So who was there to scientifically observe that happening?

[red_rider]

So who was there to scientifically observe that happening?
Good question?

[habbywall]

wow this thread is going strong

[Loosemoose]

So who was there to scientifically observe that happening? Who was there to scientifically observe Jesus happening? Or do you believe everything a 2000 year old book tells you is true? *cough* Da Vinci Code *cough*.

Loose.

[BillyTheMountain]

So who was there to scientifically observe that happening?

Good question?

Questioning the factual nature of this claim is tantamount to starting a religious debate.

You have been warned!

If this misconduct continues, you will be reported to OWNER-MAN Thread Master!!

[GILD]

Are you now on The Man's side in this thread BTM?

[James_Potter]

Who was there to scientifically observe Jesus happening? Or do you believe everything a 2000 year old book tells you is true? *cough* Da Vinci Code *cough*.
Loose.
Actually, there were more eye witness accounts of Jesus and the things he did than there were of what Podzol explained...really all the scientific, evolution stuffs is just speculation, even though there is a lot of evidence to back it up, and it's probably true, theres still no way to actually prove its truth. Just like religion....

[bmemike]

Also keep in mind that you can go to a magic show and everyone will attest to seeing "that guy disappear" or "that lady sawed in half" or any of the other tricks that they do. It doesn't mean that the magician actually did those things, just that the audience all have the same perception of them happening.

[underdog]

TSK TSK TSK yourself! If you dont have answers you are willing to give, go find a forum about fabrics! I ask a legitimate ? for anyone to answer if they want! Once again your answer was "flippant"!

Ooooh! Somebody's getting a wee bit testy here:( Not flippant at all. Just trying to keep this thread on track.;)

[DustinMichels]

and the cow went mooooooooooooo..

[maflitto]

nice thread most people always argue about religion its kinda stupid
the debate of religon fuels WARS seriously most of them start cause of that
its good to stay away from that let people belive what they want to there is no right or wrong on how you choose to live your life

[cathwood]

Where do Atheists believe they go when they die? This is a serious question that I really would like those who consider themselves atheists to answer? Oh yeah, where do atheists believe that everything in the world came from? Please, only intelligent and serious answers only! There is enough flippant religious crap on this forum already!!!:)

Okay, but first, what do you mean by 'where do they go'? Which bit of them? The body goes into the ground or is cremated, just like theists. You obviously know this, so I suppose you are thinking of something other than the body. Please specify.

Cathy

[phlegm]

Okay, but first, what do you mean by 'where do they go'? Which bit of them? The body goes into the ground or is cremated, just like theists. You obviously know this, so I suppose you are thinking of something other than the body. Please specify.

I believe in bodily resurrection, which is more common in Christian doctrine than is commonly known (http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RESURRECTION-04-05-06).

[dorkybarb]

so since we are all here not discussing religion and red has decided to become my friend, i figured that i would open my friendship up to anyone else who is interested.

like i said before, it really isn't much.
i mean, if you are really interested i can print up a
"Official Friend of Barb" card so you can be a card carrying member.

any takers?

[Gilby]

well, im not sure what you do, maybe gilby does
No need to point to a higher up to try to explain what the purpose of a thread is. Doh, I think I just violated the intent of this thread by saying something that could be seen as religious debate.

[Gilby]

have you found Jesus yet?
He's in Mexico...

[Brian O.]

He's in Mexico...
with Tupac.

[BornUgly]

*twiddles thumbs*

[BornUgly]

*multi-tasks by twiddling thumbs and generating useless spam at the same time*

[GILD]

so since we are all here not discussing religion and red has decided to become my friend, i figured that i would open my friendship up to anyone else who is interested.

like i said before, it really isn't much.
i mean, if you are really interested i can print up a
"Official Friend of Barb" card so you can be a card carrying member.

any takers?
Yeah, I'll sign up.
But it's ok, I already have a card.
Want one?
http://www.mazes.com/goohf/big.jpg

He's in Mexico...
Getting a prescription filled (http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=73102)?

[Gilby]

Yeah, I'll sign up.
But it's ok, I already have a card.
Want one?
I'll take all ten please. Since this is unproven territory, I could use as many of those as I can get. Sure beats getting up early every Sunday morning to listen to a boring lecture and be made to give an "offering".

Getting a prescription filled (http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=73102)? No, he got deported by US Immigrations.

[GILD]

I'll take all ten please.
Help yourself.

They now al (http://www.goohf.com/)so do shirts and mugs.

[Gilby]

Help yourself.

They now al (http://www.goohf.com/)so do shirts and mugs.
Dang, they don't have any of the fire resistent kind.

[dorkybarb]

Yeah, I'll sign up.
But it's ok, I already have a card.
Want one?


wait, I'm confused. :confused:
so, does that mean my friendship is like going to hell?
and then does that mean Gilby wants to be my friend 10 times over?
and what exactly is going on with the penny?
are you insinuating that I need to pay people to be my friend?

maybe i am just thinking to hard. or maybe not hard enough!
and i thought we weren't going to discuss religion?
AAAHHHHHH
my world is falling apart!
:)

[GILD]

maybe i am just thinking to hard.
What do you mean 'hard'?
Has my girlfriend been talking behind my back again?

[Gilby]

What do you mean 'hard'?
Has my girlfriend been talking behind my back again?
Was your name mentioned, I don't think so... :)