Linux users ?

[fordfasterr]

Any linux users here ?

I have been using linux on my laptop and home PC for 4 years.

I use Knoppix DVD edition installed to the hard drive with KDE desktop on both.

The home PC is setup as a web server and I use it to host my webcam so I can watch the house from work =) (FREE !).

I use the same distro on the laptop and I have it setup with the wifi and it works great ! I am using the laptop to chat on the forums and general internet and school-work using Open Office 2. =)

I am happy to say that I am 100% Microsoft Free.

How about you all ?

[phlegm]

I've been a user in the past, however I only use Windows XP currently. I need the Windows DRM functionality for my schooling, and I hate having to take care of more than one system--for me, a computer is always a means to an end. So Windows XP it is, for now.

Also, I should add that I've been pleasantly surprised by the stability of Windows XP compared to previous Windows versions. Yeah, it's not "server stable," but for casual personal use, it works pretty well.

[bmemike]

Lately I've been into Ubuntu and for more server-centric apps, I tend to go with OpenBSD instead.

[johnfoss]

I've been using a Mac for about two years, but my email is still on Microsoft Entourage, and I still have Microsoft Office on this thing. I think those are okay, as long as they aren't running my operating system!

My Mac, of course, runs Unix. Or Unix runs my Mac, I guess...

[fordfasterr]

I've been using a Mac for about two years, but my email is still on Microsoft Entourage, and I still have Microsoft Office on this thing. I think those are okay, as long as they aren't running my operating system!

My Mac, of course, runs Unix. Or Unix runs my Mac, I guess...


I think the mac runs on a linux derivative... not unix.


I could be wrong. lol

[uni57]

Any linux users here ?Our friend Steve, a.k.a. Dogbowl (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/member.php?u=6629), is proud to be a Linux geek. He had a rather nasty crash (not Linux-related) and is currently not in the unicycle scene.

Last time I tried to banish Windows from my computers, I got sucked back in. There's always something that you need that only runs on Windows. That was a few years ago.

[bmemike]

I think the mac runs on a linux derivative... not unix.

I could be wrong. lol

I'm pretty sure it's FreeBSD-based, which would make it unix-based and not linux.

Anyone that heads over to google is more than willing to look it up though. I'm not that motivated just yet.

[unisteve]

OS X is BSD based. I'm not sure about earlier versions.

[gkmac]

Last time I tried to banish Windows from my computers, I got sucked back in. There's always something that you need that only runs on Windows. That was a few years ago.That's what dual-booting is for. Or if you're really try your luck, there's Wine.

I do know what you mean though, it took me about four attempts to get used to using Linux everyday.

I'm a Gentoo Linux person myself, using it every day for everything on my desktop. It dual-boots with Windows 2000, which only gets an occasional boot every now and then for games and Google Earth.

My laptop runs Linux too, that's the only OS installed on it. Used for note taking with OpenOffice, and also as a portable music/DVD player.

I also have a server that does e-mail, NTP time synchronisation, music streaming, a little website and some other things, all at the same time. Not bad for a Pentium II 333MHz!

[leo]

NTP time synchronisation
I recently bought this GPS NTP server (http://www.symmttm.com/products_nt_NTS-150.asp), and hope to put on the roof of TELx (http://www.telx.com/) at 60 Hudson in NYC (http://www.nyc-architecture.com/SOH/SOH016.htm).

I have a Linux server in Atlanta, which is my 1st Linux box again in 6 years.
But to keep this post short:

[johnfoss]

There's always something that you need that only runs on Windows.
That just means you don't want out badly enough. There are definitely a few Windows programs I really miss that don't have good Mac equivalents, but I'm learning to love what I can get. ThumbsPlus was a great image viewer, but with no Mac version anymore. But yesterday I bought the full version of iView Media Pro, which is a very powerful media cataloging product (Windows and Mac).

Yes, it's FreeBSD under OSX. Not sure if that means straight Unix or some derivative or what tho...

[bmemike]

The *BSD's are unix-based OSes (and are clearly not linux). That would make OS X "unix-based" as well.

It's important to note that you're not "running unix" though. OS X does have a unix-based kernel, but it's not the same as "running unix" (something that some people don't quite get).

[Gilby]

The *BSD's are unix-based OSes (and are clearly not linux). That would make OS X "unix-based" as well.

It's important to note that you're not "running unix" though. OS X does have a unix-based kernel, but it's not the same as "running unix" (something that some people don't quite get).

So explain this to us. What is unix? Or are you referring to UNIX?

[oldfatboy]

Started with Slackware 3.0, Debian .93, FreeBSD 2.21-R, and then OS/2 Warp.
Now, I have Slack 10.2, SimplyMepis, PCLinuxOS, Kanotix, and OpenBSD. That's all that is on this particular machine :)

[bmemike]

For some detailed history, this is a good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix

(I'll try to give a brief explaination with better attention to capitalization)

While the kernel is a very important part of an operating system, it's not the only factor when considering what an OS is. In the case of OS X, the operating system is OS X - not UNIX. OS X does use a kernel based on FreeBSD as noted above. This is why I said that OS X "is UNIX-based, but isn't UNIX".

Depending on how strict someone wants to be, the definition of what "is UNIX" and what "is not UNIX" can lead to some heated debates.

[mscalisi]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we all using Linux right now?

[mscalisi]

There is a solution to every problem . http://www.vmware.com/products/server/


Our friend Steve, a.k.a. Dogbowl (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/member.php?u=6629),

Last time I tried to banish Windows from my computers, I got sucked back in. There's always something that you need that only runs on Windows. That was a few years ago.

[Gilby]

That's correct.

[maestro8]

Linux & Unix are for wussies. Way too much overhead.

Bow to your TRUE God: VxWorks (http://www.windriver.com/portal/server.pt?space=Opener&control=OpenObject&cached=true&parentname=CommunityPage&parentid=10&in_hi_ClassID=512&in_hi_userid=27106&in_hi_ObjectID=769&in_hi_OpenerMode=2&)!

(you might not know it, but your cell phone, your car, your DVD player and even your microwave oven might all be running VxWorks...)

[Gilby]

Linux & Unix are for wussies. Way too much overhead.

Bow to your TRUE God: VxWorks (http://www.windriver.com/portal/server.pt?space=Opener&control=OpenObject&cached=true&parentname=CommunityPage&parentid=10&in_hi_ClassID=512&in_hi_userid=27106&in_hi_ObjectID=769&in_hi_OpenerMode=2&)!

(you might not know it, but your cell phone, your car, your DVD player and even your microwave oven might all be running VxWorks...)
So what? Can it run on my unicycle? I think not.

[maestro8]

So what? Can it run on my unicycle? I think not.
So what? Not that easily impressed, you are. Unaware, you are, that a robot, you are, and running VxWorks as well, you are.

Run on your unicycle, can it? Run on your unicycle, can you? Think not, I do...

[evil-nick]

I've been a Linux user (Or GNU/Linux as some would say) since 1997. I'm posting right now from Ubuntu Breezy on my desktop (Calvin), complete with XGL goodness (think all those cool Windows Vista effects, but cooler. And now.)

Calvin dualboots with XP, mostly because I've had little luck with video editors under Linux, but also because I maintain 3 websites that have to be Internet Exploiter compatible. Oh, and because neither my girlfriend's nor her sister's computers run Sims 2 (2 Win98 boxes and 1 ibook).

My laptop (TinyGod) runs Ubuntu only. It is yummy goodness. I use it for note taking (OpenOffice 2), tv (dl.tv, TikiBarTV, CommandN, Open Alpha, Hak.5, uni flicks), web design, and occasionaly image editing.

My other laptop is a G3 iBook (the gumdrop clamshell style) named MacBeth, also running Ubuntu.

In the past I've used Redhat, Slackware, Vector, Knoppix, Gnoppix, Gentoo, Fedora... possibly other's I've forgotten.

I would argue that Mac OSX IS a Unix, because if you open up a command-line window, you get most if not all the standard Unix commands. The GUI is just Apple's interface (and you can even install X libraries so that you can run applications written for other Unices on OSX).

"Mac OSX: Because making Unix user-friendly is easier than debuggin windows" :D

[GUI]

I'm running knoppix and windows 2000 profesional on a dual boot setup. The only thing i seem to use windows for is the ipod software and watching videos on the internet. Linux is just that much better.

[joshuni]

i checked into my hotel in cocoa beach today and hopped on this computer which has Linspire 4.5. i love it, I'm gonna load it onto my computer when i get home. i like this browser too, i think it's the linspire internet suite. w00t.

[Gilby]

I'm posting right now from Ubuntu Breezy on my desktop (Calvin), complete with XGL goodness (think all those cool Windows Vista effects, but cooler. And now.)

Well, my Windows computer is crashed... won't boot. No point trying to fix it as I'd rather put Ubuntu on it, with a windows running in virtualization, such as vmware, so I can test things in IE. Do you know of an easy guide or setup script to totally pimp out my Ubuntu install with stuff like XGL and other cool things?

[john_childs]

I should get Linux running just to get familiar with it. I don't want to switch to Linux or deal with dual booting so I'll give Linux a try using VMware Player and one of the prebuilt Linux VMware virtual appliances.

I don't want to switch from Windows. Windows works exceptionally well for what I do on my PC. It never blue screens. When it has problems it is usally due to hardware misbehaving or drivers misbehaving and not the fault of the OS.

Windows also has the support base for software and hardware that I have. I have some software that only works in Windows, no Linux option. I also just bought a Fireware based recording module (M-Audio Firewire 410 (http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FireWire410-main.html)). It won't work in Linux, though it will work on a Mac. I also like to play with MathCAD (http://www.mathcad.com/). I'm not aware of any Linux application that can replace MathCAD even with greatly reduced functionality and usability.

So I'm not going to switch away from Windows. But I do need to play with Linux just to learn it. For that I think the VMware Player will do nicely.

[john_childs]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we all using Linux right now?
Only if you've managed to hack into Gilby's server.

[evil-nick]

Well, my Windows computer is crashed... won't boot. No point trying to fix it as I'd rather put Ubuntu on it, with a windows running in virtualization, such as vmware, so I can test things in IE. Do you know of an easy guide or setup script to totally pimp out my Ubuntu install with stuff like XGL and other cool things?

There's a pretty good guide on the Ubuntu forums, but it's for Dapper Drake, which is still in pre-release... You can get Flight 5, but the stable release isn't until June I think. Somewhere in there is a link to getting it working under Breezy, but it involves some voodoo involving Suse packages... All assuming your videocard can hendle it. Mine can, except for videos, I have to play them back at very small size. I have it bookmarked at home, I'll post it when I get back.

And to the Linux detractors out there, yes, Windows plays the vids fine at full screen, but not with the cool eye candy I have running, and my videocard is too old for Vista's eye candy... so Linux still rocks!

[Gilby]

There's a pretty good guide on the Ubuntu forums, but it's for Dapper Drake, which is still in pre-release... You can get Flight 5, but the stable release isn't until June I think. Somewhere in there is a link to getting it working under Breezy, but it involves some voodoo involving Suse packages... All assuming your videocard can hendle it.

I'm pretty sure my video card can handle it... I have an ATI 9800 Pro. Right now I am installing Ubuntu Breezy, via the dvd iso I downloaded overnight. Should I have gotten the drapper beta instead?