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GILD
2006-01-25, 12:28 PM
The Australian Beer discussion is threatening to jack the 'Quotes of the day thread (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showpost.php?p=430429&postcount=318)so I figure we'd bring it here.

Loosemoose
2006-01-25, 01:32 PM
Excellent beers available in this country include:

Grolsch - Dutch
Kronenbourg 1664 - French
Peroni - Italian
Cobra - Indian
Budweiser Budvar - Czech Republic

Excellent ales available in this country include:

Spitfire - UK (Kent)
Bishops Finger - UK (Kent)
Old Speckled Hen - UK (Oxfordshire)
Newcastle Brown - UK (Gateshead)
Old Peculier - UK (Yorkshire)
And obviously Guiness - Ireland
Anything by the Badger Brewery (Dorset), but especially
Golden Glory
Champion
Blandford Fly
and of course Tanglefoot

All of these are available in most supermarkets, and the ales are increasingly available in pubs. I can't wait until I see Tanglefoot on draft, I'm going to have a field day.

All of these beverages are united in one factor, and that is that they don't taste like crap. There are many, many more beers available in this country, but the vast majority of those taste like ditch water. Notable entrants into this category include:

Carlsburg
Carling
Budweiser (but not Budvar, off whom the Budweiser name was nicked)
Heineken

Loose.

GILD
2006-01-25, 01:35 PM
One that particularly caught my eye during my depressingly short UK holiday was a thing called DoomBar that I drank down Cornwall way.

Loosemoose
2006-01-25, 01:57 PM
There are many localised ales and beers in the UK, Doom Bar being of the Sharps Brewery in Cornwall.

Some others I forgot to mention:

The Greene King Brewery, produces:
Abbot Ale
Greene King IPA
Ruddles County
And also Old Speckled Hen, but I mentioned that.

All these are good.

Back to bad, and the obvious one I forgot to mention:
Fosters - Australian
Using the advertising slogan 'He who thinks Australian drinks Australian', or more correctly 'He who thinks Australian drinks like an idiot', since it tastes like condensed bathwater. I do know that Fosters is very under-represented in Australia itself, but thats no excuse. Australians would be wise to distance themselves from this henious crime of a beverage.

Loose.

GILD
2006-01-25, 02:11 PM
And also Old Speckled Hen
Old Speckled Hen is one that occasionally appears in some of the better (non-franchised) pubs in South Africa. My personal favourite pub, The Jolly Roger in Parkhurst (big sign on the wall: 'Our Housewine is Jaegermeister', how can I not like it?) have recently started bringing in some of the Belgian 'blond' beers and I've been having fun with the likes of Leffe and Hoegaarden.
Normally just as something to drink while I wait for the pint of Guinness to de-arcticify.

unicycle6869
2006-01-25, 02:25 PM
...and Hoegaarden.
Normally just as something to drink while I wait for the pint of Guinness to de-arcticify.

Hoegaarden and Tuborg are my favorite European beers when I backpacked for 2 months around Europe. A Hieneken in Amsterdam isn't bad either.

rob.northcott
2006-01-25, 02:48 PM
There are many localised ales and beers in the UK
I quite like Princetown Brewery's Jail Ale (even if they do use the American spelling - why can nobody spell gaol these days?...)

The Greene King Brewery, produces:
And also Old Speckled Hen
**Dons anorak** Something "quite interesting" about that is that it was named after the "old speckled 'un", an old MG car that was used at the (MG) factory as a workhorse, and was covered in flecks of paint. Nothing to do with hens at all.

Nothing to do with Australian beer either... how can I get back on topic... err... I drank a can of Fosters once... or was it?... oh I can't remember. I don't really give a XXXX anyway.

Rob

Siege
2006-01-25, 02:56 PM
Aye, Grolsch is one of my favourites. I probably would have said something about Fosters but as has been mentioned, it is (rightly) shunned by most Australians so has been mentally blocked out. Boag's, James Squire and Cascade all produce some good beers. Heck...I only turned 18 last July. I've got plenty more beers to get through before i'm an expert. Funnily enough Beer is my last name so if anything I owe it to the family name. Any good Sooth Efricen drinks you can recommend GILD? I'll keep my eyes out for them.

Siege (Australia Day tomorrow...as good a reason as any to have a few!)

gollum89
2006-01-25, 03:17 PM
There are two Countries that make good beer, Germany and Namibia (under German standards) Im sorry but this belgian, dutch, whatever crap tastes like dirt under your toenails.
@siege: look for tafel lager or windhoek lager, theyre two damn good beers from Namibia. The South african beers are maby good enough to water your plants...

sorry@ gild and everyone but thats how it is...:)

GILD
2006-01-25, 03:21 PM
Any good Sooth Efricen drinks you can recommend GILD? I'll keep my eyes out for them.Castle (http://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer/Beer-Ratings.asp?BeerID=4497) is the ubiquitous Sefrican beer and is best avoided. Have one, just to be able to say that you have, but don't make a habit of it. It is one of the best examples of what's wrong with Lagers.
If you're stout oriented, they do make a rather nice Castle Milk Stout (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/castle-milk-stout/7513/) which is worth a go.

I'm personally partial to Black Label (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/carling-black-label-beer-(south-africa)/14974/) as an everyday beer.

If you ever see any of the Mitchell's Brewery (http://www.ratebeer.com/brewers/mitchells-knysna-brewery/2125/) products, have a taste. They do a Forrester's Ale which is rather piddly, a Bosun's Bitter which I quite like and a Raven Stout which just never quite gets going. Nice try tho.
(I see they now have some other products available, these are the ones I've tried.)

More recently we've seen a micro-brewery get going on the outskirts of JHB. This is an extremely rare occurrence as the SAB monolith basically owns the industry in this country.
This mb is called Gillroy's (http://www.ratebeer.com/brewers/gilroy’s-brewery/3528/) and they manufacture 4 beers, rosy ales and serious stouty type manoeuvres. All rather good fun and a nice change from the stuff they pipe into our treadmill-cubicles around here.

Our neighbouring country, Namibia, produces a couple of nice beers thru their Namibian Breweries.
A Reinheitsgebot Windhoek Lager and a strange 'winter-brew' called Urbock.
Worth a sniff if you're between interesting books and are looking for something interesting to quaff.

GILD
2006-01-25, 03:24 PM
look for tafel lager

sorry@ gild and everyone but thats how it is...
Yeah, I forgot about Tafel, I buy that occasionally.
Do you know if NB are still doing Maibock in addition to Urbock?

No need to apologise, to each his own.
Besides, that's more for me.

Loosemoose
2006-01-25, 03:57 PM
I've just found a place where I can get Tafel in the UK, suffice to say I will be purchasing a crate and sampling it.

Loose.

GILD
2006-01-25, 04:02 PM
Be sure to let us know what you thought.

Loosemoose
2006-01-25, 04:09 PM
I like the fact this thread has turned from a general Aussie beer bashing thread to a decent beer comparison conversation. Any more local delicacies of the alcoholic beverage variety I should try and track down?

Loose.

GILD
2006-01-25, 04:12 PM
Zorgvliet's Petit Verdot (http://www.jump.co.za/Products/Product.asp?ProductCode=PR129918).

If you're into redwine.

I'm having a bottle with some (very good) friends tonight.
Can't wait.

ntappin
2006-01-25, 05:44 PM
Grolsch is awesome, It with a couple other asian beers and Alexander Keith's India Pale ale are about the only ones I drink.

My favourites are as follows:

Grolsch (its pretty much the cheapest out of the beers I like and my tastebuds aren't that refined that I have a favourite out of the ones I like)
Sapporro (its big I like the taste and it has a steal can)
Tsingtao (I probably shouldn't put it in my favourites but I don't mind it and if it is what is around I will drink it happily)
Keith's (Its good and it is a decent price)
I also like Guinness and about 70 percent of the stuff my dad makes but generaly if I am at the LCBO (liquor store in Ontario) or the beer store I don't buy them, and my dad doesn't exactly give me more than a taste his beer.

That house wine sign is amazing, I have a bar in my basement that I have taken over and now I know what I need to complete it. My parents are really hoity toity about their wines so I think that would be perfect!

wobblyjohn
2006-01-26, 03:27 AM
Around the US northwest, I can vouch for the Quail Springs pale ale. Mmm, yum. Time to go liberate one from the fridge as I'm finally caught up with my business class!
And the Hair of the Dog label, but it doesn't stick around the stores much due to limited supply and 10% or more alcohol content.

trials2k
2006-01-26, 03:58 AM
those who live in glass houses shouldnt throw rocks Gild, south africa as u sed has crap urine tasting beer, and australia has its selection of dirt beers too, but in the end, its all up to whateva u prefer the taste of! So to bag one selected country becoz of their beers is ridiculous because someone could have different tastes comparing to another!!

Its all a matter of preference!

although my favorite is not an aussie beer, it is Stella Artois !!!

tomblackwood
2006-01-26, 05:30 AM
Ever notice how almost every country has its own local version of weak-flavored, p!ss yellow, vile tasting mass produced lager? The US of course is a major offender with Budweiser, Miller, Coors, and countless city-specific versions like Utica Club. No matter how many quality beers a country might produce, it seems like it has to have one of these horrid brews on tap for mass consumption.

One which I will forever appreciate--even though I'll never drink it again--is "Stella Artois" from Belgium. I was introduced to this in a pub in Brussells, and its complete lack of flavor prompted me to ask the barkeep if they had anything with a bit more character and kick. That led to my first glass of Chimay, and I've been in love ever since.

It's unfortunate that the Chimay Grande Reserve (Blue Label) is currently running about $10 a bottle in the Seattle area. I don't get to have it as often as I'd like, but it's a nice Saturday night treat.

GILD
2006-01-26, 06:35 AM
those who live in glass houses shouldnt throw rocks Gild
Hang on, I didn't start this (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showpost.php?p=430438&postcount=319), I just moved the thread here when it threatened to jack the Quotes thread.


...and chimed in (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showpost.php?p=430456&postcount=321) after Rob did all the good work. Besides, we're a couple of weeks away from Super 14 rugby so in the meantime we're just going to have to pick on our respective countries' beer making prowess. South Africa has prettier girsl as well...

trials2k
2006-01-26, 07:40 AM
Hang on, I didn't start this, I just moved the thread here when it threatened to jack the Quotes thread.

u started the bagging of the aussie beer, thats wat im talking about!!

GILD
2006-01-26, 08:46 AM
Don't they teach you guys to read (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showpost.php?p=430438&postcount=319) down there anymore?

It's all in good fun tho.
And at least you guys serve your beer cold.

wobbling bear
2006-01-26, 09:41 AM
And at least you guys serve your beer cold.
"Cold" no iced.
I lived for some time in Australia and could'nt get accustomed to iced beer. it made my teeth grit.
I am wondering how you can feel the taste of something at that temperature.
I love beer at the temperature of the third step of the stairs going down to my cave (Czech tip)
-sorry french-ism "cave" may something like basement in proper english :( (or is it?)

trials2k
2006-01-26, 09:50 AM
And at least you guys serve your beer cold.

ahaha yea i know, i really dont understand how beer can be served cold,
its sposed to be a refreshing drink!! I hate it wen my beer goes warm, i cant handle to drink it lol, but i guess its just another self preference thing :rolleyes:

MrBoogiejuice
2006-01-26, 05:01 PM
"Cold" no iced.
I love beer at the temperature of the third step of the stairs going down to my cave (Czech tip)
-sorry french-ism "cave" may something like basement in proper english :( (or is it?)

Yep, basement. I don't think anyone likes warm beer. Warm = flat = pap. It's a common misconception that British ale is served warm. It's served at cellar (basement) temperature, it's only badly run cellars that dispense warm beer.

I work in a lovely pub with the best selection of beer in town. We serve the bog standard Carling, Stella, Strongbow, worthingtons etc but we also have wondrous things like Erdinger, Krombacher and Cruzcampo on tap. We also have 5 pumps for proper beer. 3 guest pumps which change every week or so, one for Worthingtons and one called Ale Force made by the Storm brewing company, a Macclesfield brewery run by a wonderful bloke called Dave Stebbins. He came to Glastonbury with us a few years ago and brought with him several large water carriers full of various Storm brews. Dave is a great bloke not only for his beer brewing prowess but...he can also ride a unicycle! I'm trying to get him back into riding and drag him along to a uni-meet. My favourite beer of his is called Silk of Amnesia. If you ever come across it try a pint and drink it with the satisfying knowledge that it was made by a man with the one wheeled knowledge.

GILD
2006-01-27, 06:44 AM
the satisfying knowledge that it was made by a man with the one wheeled knowledge

You have such a turn of phrase Kit.

wobbling bear
2006-01-27, 12:19 PM
I don't think anyone likes warm beer.
some beers can be drunk at room temperature (that does not mean warm but not fresh either).
There is no such thing like a beer for all events.
There are beers to drink on social events and beers to drink after two hours panting on a unicycle.
There are beers to drink when the temperature is scorching, and beers to drink while an icy gale is blowing outside.
I do not like beers with "sugary" after -taste (many belgian offenders here) ...
a pity Germany was obliged to change its law on the "purity of beer"!
some of their local beers are tremendous (but you can't keep them for a long time in a cellar)

in France a "Kronenbourg muscle" is a reference to a local brand: it is slang meaning a bulging belly.

Loosemoose
2006-01-27, 12:28 PM
u started the bagging of the aussie beer, thats wat im talking about!!Well maybe if you didn't export and agressively market such rubbish all around the world *cough* FOSTERS *cough*, the whole world might not think you're a bunch of uncultured urine imbibers. Don't worry, Budweiser has done it to the Americans too, you're not alone. SA might have bad beers, but I've never had one forced upon me...

Loose.

trials2k
2006-01-27, 12:36 PM
Well maybe if you didn't export and agressively market such rubbish all around the world *cough* FOSTERS *cough*, the whole world might not think you're a bunch of uncultured urine imbibers. Don't worry, Budweiser has done it to the Americans too, you're not alone. SA might have bad beers, but I've never had one forced upon me...

Loose.

yeah that is true but has aussie forced their beers upon u ?? :confused:

wobbling bear
2006-01-27, 12:40 PM
has aussie forced their beers upon u ?? :confused:
oh yes!
1) while "socialising" after office hours (a nightmare! I started to pay for the beer just to have an excuse to leave early)
2) ever been thru "third" half-time with rugby players from down under? :p

GILD
2006-01-27, 12:42 PM
[forces a Castle Lager on Loosemoose]Just levelling the playing field.[/forces a Castle Lager on Loosemoose]