Has Uni Tyler turnd evil???

[redhead]

Look what he said to me after giving me a bad rep:(
You are not very smart and shouldn't download anything. I think you are really dumb and you eat poop for breakfast, FAG! - UniTyler
I hope this is not him but meriley an imposter,I think Catboy has sent this, He said he hates me yesterday:eek: Please tell me unitytler has not turnd evil?? :confused:

[Fuego]

dood, it's some random noob attacking you. maybe unityler's a random noob, but it doesn't seem his style.

or catboy's, for that matter.

[abbabibble]

i got random bad rep too, for some reason. just ignore it. some random person who probably has a grudge against unityler and your post... what thread was it in?

that is something unityler would NOT do. he's nice to everyone. (as far as i've seen, at least...)

[Mikefule]

Hey, I got bad rep because someone didn't find one of my "clean jokes" funny.

If I'm going to get bad rep every time I fail to be funny, I might as well get my coat now.:rolleyes:

This good rep/bad rep thing is open to abuse. Signing one with someone else's name is beyond childish. Find out who it really was and we'll hunt 'em down and string 'em up high, and leave 'em for the crows to peck.:mad:

[One on one]

Hey, I got bad rep because someone didn't find one of my "clean jokes" funny.

If I'm going to get bad rep every time I fail to be funny, I might as well get my coat now.:rolleyes:

This good rep/bad rep thing is open to abuse. Signing one with someone else's name is beyond childish. Find out who it really was and we'll hunt 'em down and string 'em up high, and leave 'em for the crows to peck.:mad:

And after that, we'll give them a bad rep. That'll surely fix them.

[Murde Mental]

how does one find what one's rep is?

edit: Woah... I jsut ahd to scroll down. Holy... I'm not all that appreciated here... Well, I guess I deserve it. Half the time I writte very chatty comments. Then again... I'm a nice guy! haha

[amanda.gallacher]

tyler definately wouldnt do that... or would he :p... no he wouldnt, i dont think so anyway

[redhead]

I recived this after asking cat boy If He could halp me download Photoshope,he said i was stupid and it would be a wast of my time, I told him i simpley cant spell and I am not dume. I am in the IB program.
I think it was HIm
but it could allways be a coinceadence.

[amanda.gallacher]

tyler was saying something earlier about catboy saying he was stupid or something on aim i think... im not sure of exactly what he said, hopefully tyler will say something to help soon...

[Catboy]

Muahahahahahahahahahah!!!

[Seager]

The proper move to make when receiving a rep downgrade like that is to shrug and say "whatever." The improper move is to make a thread about it.

Likewise, I should be ignoring this thread in hopes that it goes away faster instead of posting in it. But then no one learns.

[redhead]

NOW I gat a bad rep saying, " I was just wondering, do you know how to spell?"
Yes I know how to spell but very porly, oy use I have a learning disabilaty, as a young boy(still young 15) I spelt every thing leaterly how it should have been spelled based on it pronuncation, to top the I had a speaking problem I said my R's wrong likeI would say Wite insted of Right. But yes I can spell.

[forrestunifreak]

When catboy says stuff like that, you should realize that he's just being sarcastic.

Çourse, its not nice to give bad rep for bad reasons...

[habbywall]

how do you give rep?

[James_Potter]

naaaw, tyler's much nicer than that. I'm sure it was catboy, that loser....

[john_childs]

how do you give rep?
...

[UniTyler]

Yes, definitely not me. Why would somebody post their name after a terrible rep like that, anyway? Again, I appologize for anybody who did this because it certainly wasn't me.

Edit: You can ask Gilby to prove this if you don't believe me. He can tell who rep is from, so maybe he can reveal or privately punish the "imposter."

[redhead]

You are not very smart and shouldn't download anything. I think you are really dumb and you eat poop for breakfast, FAG! - UniTyler
NOT ANOTHER ONE!!
how can I stop this madness

[James_Potter]

I suggest we all give Catboy negative rep, since it is him...he said muahahaha earlier, and I gave him a negatory rep saying, how rude! then I got this one back:
Jew- Tyler
so yeah, it's Catboy.

[Murde Mental]

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of Gilby... I beleive that's how things work around here.

[James_Potter]

yeah, thats probably a good idea...but I'm pretty sure its Catboy. why else would the imposter, whomever it may be, send me bad reps?

[unijesse]

i got a bad rep from"Tyler" too but all it said was his name

edit: it says"This ones from tyler, now you have six(rep points)"
also i have a grey rep from "Tyler_Cochrane" is that your name(iknow it wasnt you tho)

[UniTyler]

i got a bad rep from"Tyler" too but all it said was his name

edit: it says"This ones from tyler, now you have six(rep points)"
also i have a grey rep from "Tyler_Cochrane" is that your name(iknow it wasnt you tho)

No, Tyler Cochrane is a different Tyler. Again, that of course wasn't me.

[UniTyler]

Look what he said to me after giving me a bad rep:(

I hope this is not him but meriley an imposter,I think Catboy has sent this, He said he hates me yesterday:eek: Please tell me unitytler has not turnd evil?? :confused:

One more reason that wasn't me. I 90% of the time sign off "-Tyler" not "- UniTyler" and I NEVER put a space after my dash. I know you all know it wasn't me, but it's just more proof.

[Catboy]

Woah woah woah.

I gave negative Rep to redhead and that was it. I knew that he would probably make a thread about it, since harrasing me constantly on AIM isn't enough.

Jeez, learn to take a joke.

I guess he wasn't smart enough to get it...

[boo radley]

One more reason that wasn't me. I 90% of the time sign off "-Tyler" not "- UniTyler" and I NEVER put a space after my dash. I know you all know it wasn't me, but it's just more proof.
thanks for the tip

[Seager]

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of Gilby... I beleive that's how things work around here.

I'm sure gilby has nothing better to do than babysit you guys.

[paco]

While we're on the subject, I've seen a number of comments in the photo albums that aren't very... nice, signed by Paco. I just want to point out that if you see any of those, they aren't me either. I'm a nice guy.

[john_childs]

While we're on the subject, I've seen a number of comments in the photo albums that aren't very... nice, signed by Paco. I just want to point out that if you see any of those, they aren't me either. I'm a nice guy.
Goodness. That guest signing as Paco in the gallery does have a foul mouth. If you find comments like that you can let Gilby know and he can clean it up. We don't need comments like that being left in the gallery.

[Punxsutawney Phil]

I've seen a number of comments in the photo albums that aren't very... nice, signed by Paco. I just want to point out that if you see any of those, they aren't me either.
Even without powers of prognostication it's easy to see that as true. I predict Catboy will get a quick trial without jury, before the Final Arbiter steps in. There's a Kid who is guilty here.

[john_childs]

Anybody can leave comments in the gallery. You don't need to be a member to leave comments. Anyone who stumbles across the gallery from the internet at large can leave comments. I've seen other inappropriate comments in the gallery (nasty comments or link spam) and reported them to Gilby. It happens from time to time.

The IP address for the comments is likely logged. If it was someone from the forum Gilby could likely figure out who it is.

[Gilby]

paco comments removed from gallery.

Positive rep for redhead that resulted from this thread has also been removed. Looks like I need to go through the rep and remove those that are abusing the system. From now on, please do me a favor and only use the rep system in the mannor in which it was intended. Failure to do so will result in your rep being set to zero.

Like john_childs said, please bring the inappropriate comments in the gallery to my attention. Either PM me or post it in the Questions/bugs/whatever forum so that I see it and can take action. I don't read every thread in rsu or jc, so I may not see it otherwise. (+++rep given for john_childs)

[UniTyler]

paco comments removed from gallery.

Positive rep for redhead that resulted from this thread has also been removed. Looks like I need to go through the rep and remove those that are abusing the system. From now on, please do me a favor and only use the rep system in the mannor in which it was intended. Failure to do so will result in your rep being set to zero.

Like john_childs said, please bring the inappropriate comments in the gallery to my attention. Either PM me or post it in the Questions/bugs/whatever forum so that I see it and can take action. I don't read every thread in rsu or jc, so I may not see it otherwise. (+++rep given for john_childs)

Thanks Gilby, you are the best moderator ever! :)

[maestro8]

Looks like I need to go through the rep and remove those that are abusing the system.
I don't think this is necessary, unless there is a large segment of the user community that is abusing the system. If most people use them as intended, then rep points will accurately reflect a user's reputation after some time (say, a year). Since most posters have ~100 rep points right now, a 5-10 point rep deduction is a sizable amount... when people with good rep have 500-1000 points, it won't matter.

I feel the mechanism that prohibits "turbo-repping" is sufficient to quash the "rep givers of ill repute"... perhaps it could be tuned to deny repeated "bad reppers" from giving more bad rep until they give out some good rep. I don't think the intervention of Godby, er, Gilby is called for... even if someone goes and gives negative rep to every post they see, that'll just level the playing field, right?

If anything we should remember (and encourage others) to give good rep where it is deserved: to people who give helpful / insightful answers to questions on the fora, and those who share their pics / videos / stories of unicycling and such. By this practice alone the system should regulate itself.

Furthermore, this is an Internet forum, a gigantic shouting match in a pitch-black warehouse full of escaped convicts, mental patients, drunken clowns and hormonally-imbalanced schoolchildren. Are we really worried about what people think about us in here? :p

[Gilby]

It's mostly the sympathy rep that I'm talking about. From this thread, redhead got a few people to give him good rep, and it's happened before when people have whined about getting bad rep. I don't want to encourage whining about getting bad rep.

But, yeah, most of the problem is because the rep system is new, and nobody really has much rep.

Ultimately, I'd like to make a post rating system that's easy for people to just click a star rating it 1-5, then have a system similar to slashdot where people set it to only view posts that are rated 4+ or whatever. That should make it easier for people that don't check the site everyday and don't read every single post and therefore encourage more people to participate. I could then highlight the highest rated posts/threads on the front page of the site.

[redhead]

"redhead got a few people to give him good rep"
This did happen but I did not ask for them I dont want anyone thinking I need Sympathy

[cathwood]

It's mostly the sympathy rep that I'm talking about. From this thread, redhead got a few people to give him good rep, and it's happened before when people have whined about getting bad rep. I don't want to encourage whining about getting bad rep.

But, yeah, most of the problem is because the rep system is new, and nobody really has much rep.

Ultimately, I'd like to make a post rating system that's easy for people to just click a star rating it 1-5, then have a system similar to slashdot where people set it to only view posts that are rated 4+ or whatever. That should make it easier for people that don't check the site everyday and don't read every single post and therefore encourage more people to participate. I could then highlight the highest rated posts/threads on the front page of the site.

1. What's wrong with whining about getting bad rep? I (being a hysterical, emotional woman type of bod) find it unpleasant to be negatively evaluated and to be rated so publicly. I began posting here because the forum had such a 'nice' atmosphere. I feel there is a subtle change in the feel of the fora since the rep thing. If I'm going to say something contraversial I worry about getting bad rep - which ofcourse I did last time. I know this is my problem, I shouldn't take it seriously perhaps. But then why have the system if it is not going to be taken seriously?

2. How will such a rating system encourage people to participate?
It may mean that those people who do not check the fora regularly respond to the posts from the higher quality posters. But what will that do?
Newbs and 'lesser' posters will be at an immediate disadvantage and may find that they don't have their posts answered or even read.
This smacks hugely of elitism and goes against the previous atmosphere of the fora.

I would imagine that, in most cases, there is a high correlation between the amount of posts and the amount of rep a person has. So having a system where people can set their system to only read the 4+ will disadvantage those people who do not post as often.

Gilby, it's your game but I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to play it.

Cathy

[Mikefule]

Hmmm. Having not paid much attention, I wasn't aware until I read Cathwood's post that readers could adjust their settings to filter posts according to rep. That may make rep more important than I thought.

So if you post more often, logic says you will get more rep (subject to your posts being of about average standard in terms of content and style).

And rep given is related to the status of the person giving it. So that sort of feeds the elitist thing.

I write as one who isn't overly bothered by rep (although having a good rep is fun) and who might reasonably expect to be in the top ten on rep most of the time if nothing else changes, so I have no axe to grind here. (Since the rep was introduced, I've been as high as 2 in the ranks, and down to about 7 or 8 ish.)

My sole objective in writing this is to encourage these forums to be the friendly place they always have been. I have a stressful job, I ride less often than I would like, and the unicycle forum is a relaxing place to visit and banter with friends - many of whom I may never meet - and keep up my interest in this wonderful sport.

We need to keep this in proportion, but I wonder if this rep thing is capable of doing more harm than good.

[Catboy]

It's mostly the sympathy rep that I'm talking about. From this thread, redhead got a few people to give him good rep, and it's happened before when people have whined about getting bad rep. I don't want to encourage whining about getting bad rep.


Can't forget spite Rep. I've gotten 6 bad rep for this. More than worth it. 2 of which came before anything was even determined, and 1 good rep by someone who isn't lame.

Rep doesn't bother me at all, I've only looked at it once or twice, and I don't even know or care how much I have...

P.S. I like Bush. I hate The Simpsons, Family Guy, SouthPark and American Dad, aaaaand Sienfeld and Friends and the OC and MTV and Fox and Football and Rugby and everything you all like and I hope that anyone who likes television or the internet get hit by a truck because they suck... Also I think all of your mom's are fat pigs and that you step on a crack to break her back, and that you all get pooped on by birds.

In fact, I think you all are dumb.

Bring on the bad rep.

[boo radley]

Can't forget spite Rep. I've gotten 6 bad rep for this. More than worth it. 2 of which came before anything was even determined, and 1 good rep by someone who isn't lame.

Rep doesn't bother me at all, I've only looked at it once or twice, and I don't even know or care how much I have...

P.S. I like Bush. I hate The Simpsons, Family Guy, SouthPark and American Dad, aaaaand Sienfeld and Friends and the OC and MTV and Fox and Football and Rugby and everything you all like and I hope that anyone who likes television or the internet get hit by a truck because they suck... Also I think all of your mom's are fat pigs and that you step on a crack to break her back, and that you all get pooped on by birds.

In fact, I think you all are dumb.

Bring on the bad rep.

someone has already done this (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44536). stop reverse-whoring for rep.

[GILD]

While we're on the subject...PACO!! You're back from outer-wherever-you-where?
Can we take over the world now?

[cathwood]

I would also suggest that the rep system would go against the minorities of this forum. For instance as a woman I am very much in the minority. Also being a relative beginner and slow learner. The vast majority of the forum are male, probably very skilled in trials/street unicycling. This would mean that I had little to say that they would find useful but what I had to say may be useful to others. Also my questions, which would usefully be answered by these people may be filtered out.

More elitism.

Cathy

[Mikefule]

I wonder how many people do filter the forum on the basis of reputation anyway. Sounds a bit overzealous to me. You quickly learn whose posts to ignore, and which threads to leave unanswered.

I am a male, but I have virtually no street skills and no trials skills at all. My MUni skills are barely intemediate. I have no freestyle skills to speak of I am a mediocre hockey player. I virtually never attend unicycle events. On the whole, I get good rep.

Cathwood, you have described your perception of the population of the forum, rather than the reality. At the time of writing, your reputation ranking is number 10 out of 2,817! That puts you up there with John, Gild, Giby, Yoopers, and Harper and a long way above many people whose profiles appear to fit the description you gave.

Worry less. This is a game we play with friends.:) :)

[cathwood]

I wonder how many people do filter the forum on the basis of reputation anyway. Sounds a bit overzealous to me. You quickly learn whose posts to ignore, and which threads to leave unanswered.

I am a male, but I have virtually no street skills and no trials skills at all. My MUni skills are barely intemediate. I have no freestyle skills to speak of I am a mediocre hockey player. I virtually never attend unicycle events. On the whole, I get good rep.

Cathwood, you have described your perception of the population of the forum, rather than the reality. At the time of writing, your reputation ranking is number 10 out of 2,817! That puts you up there with John, Gild, Giby, Yoopers, and Harper and a long way above many people whose profiles appear to fit the description you gave.

Worry less. This is a game we play with friends.:) :)

1. Actually, I don't think that the system is in operation yet. Gilby just said (as far as I understand it) that his aim for the rep system was to enable this.

2. There is only people's perceptions and mine is as real as yours. ;)

3. Yes I concede the point that those with the highest rep don't match my perception of the majority of users of the forum.

I realise I'm not speaking from a position of low rep. That was never the point.

And finally, if worrying was as easy to turn off as that, I would be out of a job that I haven't yet qualified.

Cathy

PS, Yes I know I'm among friends. It's much appreciated.
And now that I've vented my spleen I'll shut up about it for a bit.

[Gilby]

Yes, there is no filter by rep thing. And that wasn't the idea. The idea is to let people rate each individual post and then people can filter by that rating. Most the regulars will probably have it set to show all posts/threads. However, not everyone can read every single post on the forum. RSU used to be small enough that you could read every post, but that has changed, and the volume has driven people away (many that were regulars 5 years ago). I want to accomodate all unicyclists, not just those that can read the forums every day, so having a system where people can filter it to show only those threads that have high ratings would help them not miss the latest unicycling news. The highest rating threads can then be featured on the front page of unicyclist.com.

The rep system would play into this as the rating of your posts will change your rep. Your rep would also give your rating of other's posts more weighting.

[Mikefule]

2. There is only people's perceptions and mine is as real as yours. ;)


Of course, your perceptions here are distorted by the fact that internet forums are notorious for being places where people act out their fantasies under assumed personas.

(Fora/personae - for anyone who wants to argue?;) )

For example, Catboy is actually a 46 year old cardiologist working in a charity-run tent hospital in the Horn of Africa, and he uses this forum solely as a way of dealing withthe tensions of his job. Harper is an elderly lady blues and gospel singer from the wrong side of the tracks in Louisiana, and has never ridden a unicycle in her life, by dint of being blind in one leg. I myself am a disgraced former glam rock singer using a smuggled laptop computer to communicate with the outside world from an oriental jail as I await the firing squad. To give away more secret identities would be wrong, but just one hint: you never see Tom Blackwood and Kylie Minogue together...

As for the reputation thing. I think Gilby should come clean on this. I really do.

Watch out for the next US presidential election, and the method used for counting the votes in Florida... I think you will find that each of the candidates will be publishing a series of speeches in recreationalwarmonger.com and voters will be invited to award "reputation" which (as always, in every democracy since the Athens of Plato) will be closely related to the social status of each voter.

[cathwood]

LOL. Very funny.

Of course, your perceptions here are distorted by the fact that internet forums are notorious for being places where people act out their fantasies under assumed personas.


That's what I thought. And when I went to BUC 12 after posting here that I was going to and sort of describing myself, it still totally freaked me out that the people on line were actually real. And that they recognised me from my description (which wasn't very flattering).

Cathy

[harper]

Harper is an elderly lady blues and gospel singer from the wrong side of the tracks in Louisiana, and has never ridden a unicycle in her life, by dint of being blind in one leg.

I always considered myself to be from the right side of the tracks.

[rob.northcott]

Come on people, stop making it all so heavy. It's a forum on the web; don't get so wound up by it. The rep point system is no different from hearsay in real life - you may hear various things about people that may or may not be true, but when you know somebody you form your own opinion of them. There are people who post here who have low or bad rep whose posts I enjoy reading and I don't have any bad feeling towards them - they presumably wound somebody up at some time, or just had the bad rep given as a joke. Equally, there are people who have a great deal of positive rep who I have no time for.

Don't let it rule your lives :)

Rob

[john_childs]

The reputation system is a good thing in that it is getting some of the younger members to think about what they post. It's a little carrot that will help to keep the forums going in the right direction. Otherwise we could end up with a forum degrading down to what an AOL forum would be like full of LOLs, OMGs, juvenile chat, and juvenile behavior. Adults generally don't need such a carrot to get them to behave properly in a forum (except for Harper and Tom Blackwood), but the younger members do. That's part of being young.

[maestro8]

It's a little carrot that will help to keep the forums going in the right direction.
a litle carott... LOL thats SOOOOO funy!!!1!

OMG john you RuLeZ!11!~!!!

[Mikefule]

I always considered myself to be from the right side of the tracks.

Only when the train is coming back.

[harper]

Adults generally don't need such a carrot to get them to behave properly in a forum (except for Harper and Tom Blackwood), but the younger members do. That's part of being young.

This, of course, makes you the younger member.


Only when the train is coming back.


Good. Brief and swift. I would give you positive rep for that line alone but I have to spread it around first. Anyway, Cathy would be miffed if I did and I don't want to ruffle her feathers.

[Gilby]

My goal is to make this forum be self-moderated and be the most useful for the entire unicyclist community. I don't want to limit free speech or discourage people from participating, but I also don't want to waste people's time.

The rep system provides a way to allow one to comment on a post made, anonymously, and help the poster see what may be (un)acceptable... help teach them how to be good members of the community. Of course, the reputation system is subject to the opinion of others, and you should use discretion on understanding the comments made. If a lot people give you a +/- rep on a post or thread, then you can give that greater weight in trying to understand what is acceptable or not. Of course, you can totally ignore the rep system if you want. While there is a feature where I can make someone be put in a different usergroup based on rep, and restrict them, I have no plans to do so.

[tomblackwood]

Of course, your perceptions here are distorted by the fact that internet forums are notorious for being places where people act out their fantasies under assumed personas. To give away secret identities would be wrong, but you never see Tom Blackwood and Kylie Minogue together...True...or John Childs and Magic 8 Ball. Or Mike Fule and Elmer Fudd.

[Gilby]

True...or John Childs and Magic 8 Ball. Or Mike Fule and Elmer Fudd.
Ha ha ha... So Tom, how many alter personalities do YOU have? :D

[EightTicTacs]

Tac1: I believe Tom has none, dear Gilby sir
Tac2: Ha, I think not brave lad
Tac3: Why are you talking all mideevilish, Tac2?
Tac4: Neverming Tac2, mind Gilby's assumptions of Tom Blackwood
Tac5: Yes yes, back on topic, fellow TicTacs. Tom, I appologize of Gilby's assumptions
Tac6: ZZZZZ
Tac7: DEAD BY MOUTH
Tac8: DEAD BY MOUTH

[tomblackwood]

Tac1: blah
Tac2: blah
Tac3: blah

Lord help us. I found this amusing on post number 1, tedious by post number 3, and now with post number 4, I'm just PRAYING that this isn't someone's way of getting around their promise to not post so much.

[Gilby]

Lord help us. I found this amusing on post number 1, tedious by post number 3, and now with post number 4, I'm just PRAYING that this isn't someone's way of getting around their promise to not post so much.

Your prayer has just been answered by yourself... but you may not like the outcome. :)