View Full Version : Rep points?
UNIquelyCanadian
2005-10-14, 05:47 PM
Sorry for making a whole new thread for this but:
How do I view my rep point comments in User CP; I can't seem to find it anywhere.
~Cameron
www.camerondonaldson.com
Spudman
2005-10-14, 06:02 PM
They should be listed right there when you press usercp.
Maybe you didn't have any. check again.
UNIquelyCanadian
2005-10-14, 06:06 PM
They should be listed right there when you press usercp.
Maybe you didn't have any. check again.
OK, thanks, I can't believe I missed seeing that! I looked everywhere in User CP twice and still didn't find it. I must have thought that was subscribed threads or something.
Let's make this thread useful:
How many rep points do you all have?
I now have 13.
~Cameron
www.camerondonaldson.com
JJuggle
2005-10-14, 06:28 PM
What do they mean?
yoopers
2005-10-14, 06:31 PM
What do they mean?
I somehow have 18 but I'm with Raphael, what is their purpose in life?
(Raphael, I just added to your rep points on the post above)
chosen
2005-10-14, 06:34 PM
they dotn have a lot of purpose...but id like some.
yoopers
2005-10-14, 06:38 PM
they dotn have a lot of purpose...but id like some.
There you go.
ThisGuyIKnow
2005-10-14, 06:40 PM
I have negative 3, anyone want to help me out?
JJuggle
2005-10-14, 06:41 PM
I somehow have 18 but I'm with Raphael, what is their purpose in life?
(Raphael, I just added to your rep points on the post above)Ditto, Bruce. Check yours now.
I had never looked at this, but apparently someone doesn't think much of me. "stupid thread #531" was a comment for my "Happy Birthday UC" post.
JJuggle
2005-10-14, 06:42 PM
I have negative 3, anyone want to help me out?Sure, you should be negative 4 now. ;)
Spudman
2005-10-14, 06:49 PM
More people like potatos than not, so I have 26 :eek:
I want to see someone get 2 little boxes, though. John Childs is close I think...
look at the members list and have it listed by reputation to see how people rank.
ThisGuyIKnow
2005-10-14, 06:58 PM
Oddly one positive point outways 3 negatvie points -3 + 1 = 1?
yoopers
2005-10-14, 07:19 PM
So in my Rep point entries in my control panel, I have three entries, two with green squares and one with a grey square. I assume that the grey square is a negative entry. Anyone have a more educated guess? This is all extremely important, matter of life or death, you know.
I have 6 negative and 2 neutral
but I only have -1
but I have a red square
hmmmm...
john_childs
2005-10-14, 08:20 PM
I don't know much about the rep system or the formula used to calculate the scores. vBulletin doesn't want to make that info public cause that could open the rep system to abuse or manipulation.
What I've been able to gather is that the points you get for a positive or negative vote seems to depend on the reputation of the person giving the vote. So the points for a vote will vary. It may possibly also vary based on the number of posts or posting history of the person giving the vote.
A green box is a positive vote
A red box would be a negative vote
A gray box seems to be a vote from someone with an undetermined reputation and doesn't seem to affect your reputation score
I'm guessing that a gray box could turn green or red in the future if that person starts to get enough of a posting history and reputation that their votes start to mean something.
vBulletin mentions that the reputation feature can be a controversial feature to enable in the forum. It can get abused and can cause division and bad feelings in the ranks of the forum users. We'll have to see how it works out here. If it starts to cause problems Gilby can always disable it.
yoopers
2005-10-14, 08:30 PM
I don't know much about the rep system or the formula used to calculate the scores. vBulletin doesn't want to make that info public cause that could open the rep system to abuse or manipulation.
What I've been able to gather is that the points you get for a positive or negative vote seems to depend on the reputation of the person giving the vote. So the points for a vote will vary. It may possibly also vary based on the number of posts or posting history of the person giving the vote.
A green box is a positive vote
A red box would be a negative vote
A gray box seems to be a vote from someone with an undetermined reputation and doesn't seem to affect your reputation score
I'm guessing that a gray box could turn green or red in the future if that person starts to get enough of a posting history and reputation that their votes start to mean something.
vBulletin mentions that the reputation feature can be a controversial feature to enable in the forum. It can get abused and can cause division and bad feelings in the ranks of the forum users. We'll have to see how it works out here. If it starts to cause problems Gilby can always disable it.
Yep. Just something new to play with. DK just disapproved of my post #13 in this thread and it gave me a grey box. Now I have two green and two grey but my score didn't change with the addition of the second grey box. It's quite confusing and even more meaningless so I probably won't ever look at it again.
DK just disapproved of my post #13 in this thread and it gave me a grey box.
what???????
I havent disapproved of anybody's posts except for maxxisback.
Why do you think it was me?
Did somebody write DK in the comment box?
Fly04066814
2005-10-14, 09:25 PM
13 pionts think am 43 :D
UniTyler
2005-10-14, 10:13 PM
I need rep points! Let's see if everyone can give me a positive and I'll have a record! Oh, and please type your name so I can give a point back to you (and decrease you if you give me a red...:rolleyes:)
UniTyler
2005-10-14, 11:44 PM
Oh yea, 26 points and counting!
ThisGuyIKnow
2005-10-15, 12:21 AM
After Tyler decided to spite on me for invading his Christians thread I need another boost into the green.
Any help would be appreciated
UniTyler
2005-10-15, 12:54 AM
Thanks for the rep spudman! I can't give any more to you because I've already given you some.
Spudman
2005-10-15, 12:56 AM
That's okay...
It's the thought that counts!
usually
UNIquelyCanadian
2005-10-15, 05:23 PM
I think rep points could be a very good way to tell if a person is a "good" member of the community. If someone always posts useless stuff, people can give him - rep points and then the rest of the forum knows that he isn't helpful.
I am not trying to say someone with low rep points in useless because right now people are still using rep points as a joke.
~Cameron
+ rep points welcome!
unijesse
2005-10-15, 06:15 PM
i dont think i have any.(sniffle)
spudman what are the letters for next to the spaces for rent things?
Unitik908
2005-10-15, 06:21 PM
i have 22... how do i get them... what are they
Chase
Spudman
2005-10-15, 06:24 PM
spudman what are the letters for next to the spaces for rent things?
You have to read it vertically: BILL-BOARD
I had to do something clever. You only get five lines for your sig nowadays.
Mikefule
2005-10-15, 06:48 PM
Hmmm.
Thanks for raising this. It prompted me to look in a bit more detail.
It's a bit of harmless fun to give and get reputation points. The problem comes if a fairly new visitor to the forum takes it too seriously. hover the pointer over the red or green box next to your post and it will say something like "X is on a distinguished road" or "X has a little shameless behaviour in the past."
I'm for people's opinions being judged on their merits, rather than their "reputations". However, maybe I'm being too po-faced and it's just a bit of fun.
I think rep points could be a very good way to tell if a person is a "good" member of the community. If someone always posts useless stuff, people can give him - rep points and then the rest of the forum knows that he isn't helpful.
I am not trying to say someone with low rep points in useless because right now people are still using rep points as a joke.
~Cameron
+ rep points welcome!
<--------
Im going to kill myself
everyone hates me
boo hoo
yoopers
2005-10-16, 02:40 AM
Spreading the love...
forrestunifreak
2005-10-16, 02:44 AM
Lets see how many I have..
20.
forrestunifreak
2005-10-16, 03:05 AM
Wow, 2 reps later, 31 points!
UniTyler
2005-10-16, 03:37 AM
can I please have more rep points? :( ;)
unijesse
2005-10-16, 03:56 AM
wow i have 5 reps and 32 points:eek:!i think there all from tyler
UniTyler
2005-10-16, 03:58 AM
nope, only one!
amanda.gallacher
2005-10-16, 09:55 PM
:( i only have 16 :( lol
tomblackwood
2005-10-16, 10:07 PM
I have negative 3, anyone want to help me out?
I already did :).
UNIquelyCanadian
2005-10-19, 03:42 PM
<--------
Im going to kill myself
everyone hates me
boo hoo
You are now an unknown quantity, but with an identity!
~Cameron
+ Rep points welcome
fexnix
2005-10-19, 04:23 PM
I donīt know what they are good for.
But i shure want som more rep. points.
tyler_cochrane
2005-10-19, 04:59 PM
mabey, i'm just stupid or something, but i can't find my rep points in user cp.
howbout a screenshot?
UNIquelyCanadian
2005-10-19, 05:04 PM
mabey, i'm just stupid or something, but i can't find my rep points in user cp.
howbout a screenshot?
It's right on the first page, in plain view, on the right hand side.
+ rep points for helping you would be great! :D
~Cameron
tyler_cochrane
2005-10-19, 05:11 PM
I guess that nobody has given me any, cause I still can't find it.
I'd give you some rep, UNIquelyCanadian but I already gave you some a while ago. Thanks though!
john_childs
2005-10-19, 05:13 PM
mabey, i'm just stupid or something, but i can't find my rep points in user cp.
howbout a screenshot?
That section in the user cp may not show up until you get some rep points. Right now you're an unknown quantity which I think means you have no rep points. Once someone gives you a rep vote you should see that section at the bottom of your user cp page.
tyler_cochrane
2005-10-19, 05:24 PM
Well, thanks to somebody, I found my Reputation Points. The reason why I am writing this message so neatly is because I have just been docked points for poor spelling. And not just "poor" spelling either. Here is the message, "your spelling is atrocious". Now, I am not quite sure that I am deserving of this. My messages are usually grammatically correct, without large spelling errors that hinder the reader's ability to understand my post.
Main Entry: atro·cious
Pronunciation: &-'trO-sh&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin atroc-, atrox gloomy, atrocious, from atr-, ater black + -oc-, -ox (akin to Greek Ops eye) -- more at EYE
1 : extremely wicked, brutal, or cruel : BARBARIC
2 : APPALLING, HORRIFYING <the atrocious weapons of modern war>
3 a : utterly revolting : ABOMINABLE <atrocious working conditions> b : of very poor quality <atrocious handwriting>
- atro·cious·ly adverb
- atro·cious·ness noun
I do not think that this is the definition of any of my posts. If anyone thinks otherwise, please feel free to tell me.
Gilby
2005-10-19, 06:48 PM
So in my Rep point entries in my control panel, I have three entries, two with green squares and one with a grey square. I assume that the grey square is a negative entry. Anyone have a more educated guess? This is all extremely important, matter of life or death, you know.
Green means it added to your rep. Grey means that the person who gave it to you doesn't have enough rep themself to change your rep. Red means they lowered your rep.
James_Potter
2005-10-19, 06:51 PM
I've got 42 rep points...is that a lot?
Gilby
2005-10-19, 06:53 PM
can I please have more rep points? :( ;)
No, but if I see people begging, I can lower your rep... giving rep for no reason defeats the purpose of it.
UNIquelyCanadian
2005-10-19, 07:05 PM
No, but if I see people begging, I can lower your rep... giving rep for no reason defeats the purpose of it.
Is my idea of rep points correct?
"I think rep points could be a very good way to tell if a person is a "good" member of the community. If someone always posts useless stuff, people can give him - rep points and then the rest of the forum knows that he isn't helpful."
~Cameron
www.camerondonaldson.com
James_Potter
2005-10-19, 07:08 PM
the way I see it is this: if someone makes a really awesome post, something really helpful or whatever, then you give them a + rep point. if they do something stupid, like say what Logan_A. used to post, then give 'em - rep points and it'll lower it. that way you'll be able to tell if the person talking to you is usually a good guy, or a bad guy.
fexnix
2005-10-19, 07:33 PM
I´m a bad boy. And I will always be ;)
chosen
2005-10-19, 08:01 PM
I've got 42 rep points...is that a lot?
compared to me yea- ive got 13. anyone wanna help me out?
fexnix
2005-10-19, 08:12 PM
I will give +rep points to anyone posting in TTOMR
UniTyler
2005-10-21, 01:40 PM
Nice.....
Rep points? 2005-10-17 10:25 AM Whoring for points is disreputable. Helpful posting is reputable.
Rep points? 2005-10-16 03:12 PM you wanted points, but you didnt specify good or bad! :/ sorry dude...
Rep points? 2005-10-16 11:16 AM stop begging.... or you get negative reps idiot. your welcome.
I recently had to visit another forum to get some advice.
They run the rep system as well and it was nice to have an immediate indication if the advice-giver is well regarded in his community or not. It was interesting to experience it from 'the other side' and it does seem to serve a purpose when it isn't abused.
fexnix
2005-10-21, 06:48 PM
i got bad rep points for a post in this thread.
I don´t really like that you don´t know who gives you the points
I recently had to visit another forum to get some advice.
You did what?
<turns back>
:)
Phil
I donīt really like that you donīt know who gives you the points
It would be a little pointless if you did, I would think. Rather than being an indicator of the quality of someone's posts it would turn into a clique-o-meter, as people would just return what they received. Equally if I choose to disapprove of a post for some reason I don't then want the poster to disapprove of posts of mine based on a grudge rather than their quality.
It shouldn't matter who the points come from; worthwhile posts should gain points, while posts that add nothing should lose them.
Phil
yoopers
2005-10-21, 07:50 PM
Equally if I choose to disapprove of a post for some reason I don't then want the poster to disapprove of posts of mine based on a grudge rather than their quality.
Happened to me in Ebay once. I left neutral feedback because the items were not operable and not as represented in the ad. It probably deserved negative feedback. The seller blazed back with negative feedback for me simply because she hadn't received positive feedback. Go figure.
TheObieOne3226
2005-10-21, 10:06 PM
Let's not make these things useless...if everyone gives rep points for very little or no reason, they will have no value. Give positive rep points for good posts, when people answer your questions, or for informative posts. Give negative rep points for postwhoring, insulting posts, or any that reduce the value of a thread.
2 cents.
maestro8
2005-10-21, 10:30 PM
2 cents.
Make that 4 cents. My 2 cents are exactly the same. But it seems there will always be a sizable subset of forum users that a) don't give out rep points at all or b) misuse the point system for the sheer sake of having or giving points.
It's like telling people to search before starting a new thread. It makes sense but it's a guideline that some people ignore.
There should be some sort of feedback system in place, but the rep point system is in it's infancy... perhaps all the system needs is time to "figure itself out."
UniTyler
2005-10-22, 12:09 AM
I will give +rep points to anyone posting in TTOMR
Fex, I'm waiting.... (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=378018#post378018)
chosen
2005-10-22, 01:22 PM
i gave you some tyler.
UniTyler
2005-10-22, 02:00 PM
I shot you some back, chosen!
fexnix
2005-10-23, 07:35 PM
Tyler!
I gave you rep points!
Wants somes backs
tomblackwood
2005-10-23, 08:57 PM
the way I see it is this: if someone makes a really awesome post, something really helpful or whatever, then you give them a + rep point. if they do something stupid, like say what Logan_A. used to post, then give 'em - rep points and it'll lower it.
Yup, and if it's just a plain old post...nothing bad but also no huge value added (kind of like this post)...then you just do nothing. Don't give them any points, either + or -. Make sense everyone? So that means no begging for points, no trading for points, no whining for points, no frigging anything for points. You should earn them for posts of notable quality, either notably good, or notably bad.
yoopers
2005-10-23, 09:49 PM
Yup, and if it's just a plain old post...nothing bad but also no huge value added (kind of like this post)...then you just do nothing. Don't give them any points, either + or -. Make sense everyone? So that means no begging for points, no trading for points, no whining for points, no frigging anything for points. You should earn them for posts of notable quality, either notably good, or notably bad.
I wonder how much rep points are going for on the black market? But I suppose that should be out as well.
chosen
2005-10-23, 10:03 PM
tyler youre awesome- thanks for the rep- i have enough bad rep so some good is refreshing. cmon, my homies need to give me some good rep.
Catboy
2005-10-23, 10:08 PM
The day the new forums came out I discussed Rep with Gilby. I totally said there would be rep whores, and not to name names, but I was right about some of you lame-o's.
cmon, my homies need to give me some good rep.
Demonstrate that you are capable of posts which deserve the points, and you will get them. Keep begging and people will keep giving you negative points. It really is that simple.
Phil
Gilby
2005-10-23, 10:59 PM
There should be some sort of feedback system in place, but the rep point system is in it's infancy... perhaps all the system needs is time to "figure itself out."
Yeah... those begging for rep will likely end up with little rep as people give them negative rep. Only people that will give them positive rep will be the other beggars, which have no rep to give. It'll all work out.
Gilby
2005-10-23, 11:01 PM
Does it tell you who I am?
Cameron, does this answer your question?
BillyTheMountain
2005-10-23, 11:12 PM
I somehow have 18 but I'm with Raphael, what is their purpose in life?
(Raphael, I just added to your rep points on the post above)
Bruce,
Doesn't it seem like you and Raphael are the last to know: He who dies with the most points WINS!!!
Billy
UNIquelyCanadian
2005-10-23, 11:42 PM
Cameron, does this answer your question?
Cool! I was wondering that! Thanks for taking the time to set that straight. :)
~Cameron
www.camerondonaldson.com
john_childs
2005-10-24, 12:32 AM
Cameron, does this answer your question?
As if there was any doubt.
I predict that Gilby gets only positive and glowing reputation votes.
Gilby
2005-10-24, 12:47 AM
As if there was any doubt.
I predict that Gilby gets only positive and glowing reputation votes.
You got me beat though.
yoopers
2005-10-24, 01:02 AM
Bruce,
Doesn't it seem like you and Raphael are the last to know: He who dies with the most points WINS!!!
Billy
I'm just looking to sell any rep points I have to support my cheese danish habit.
Bruce
UniTyler
2005-10-24, 01:52 AM
Jeez, I've gotten a lot of bad rep from begger-killers. I am no longer begging, so I don't want any more bad rep!
MERCYME
2005-10-24, 01:57 AM
Well Tyler, your still not going to get good rep until you actually do something helpful on the forum.
john_childs
2005-10-24, 02:01 AM
You got me beat though.
Yes, but I've gotten some negative feedback. Only a fool would give you negative feedback cause as admin you can see who gives you feedback.
forrestunifreak
2005-10-24, 02:14 AM
I was suspecting Gilby could do that when I gave him some....Which is why I didnt give him negative ones...:)
UniTyler
2005-10-24, 03:03 AM
MERCY, I never said I wanted rep, I said I was NO LONGER BEGGING so I wouldn't get more NEGATIVE REP.
Gilby
2005-10-24, 03:07 AM
Yes, but I've gotten some negative feedback. Only a fool would give you negative feedback cause as admin you can see who gives you feedback.
Well, I am human and could make a post that deserves negative rep sometime... so don't worry about giving me negative rep, but of course only do it if the post warrants, just like you would for anyone else. :)
UniTyler
2005-10-24, 03:08 AM
but of course only do it if the post warrants, just like you would for anyone else. :)
Amen, Lord Gilby. Amen. ;)
chosen
2005-10-24, 04:05 PM
i dropped 8 rep pts. kinda funny. people just always gotta break me down. theyre all JEALOUS!
James_Potter
2005-10-24, 10:43 PM
people dropped me by 5 rep points...now I'm done to 37 ): heh, just kiddin, thats still a lot, thanks doods!
uni57
2005-10-25, 04:49 AM
I'm bummed out because someone left me negative feedback, er, gave me negative reputation... for this (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=376589#post376589). No explanation (as if my crime were self-evident).
Bruce found that old, old thread and joked that it almost slipped off page one. I said that BTM pushed it off (referring to all his controversial threads that he starts). I said that I remembered unisteve (that's a good thing). And I noted that he posted recently (showing that I actually noticed that unisteve returned -- another good thing, as in "look, unisteve is back...").
I'm not whining about injustice. I'm just plain old confused. Out of curiosity, what was wrong with my post? How could it have been misread?
(my only other negative is when I called Miss Ayelery a bad word -- I deserved the negative rep, but I don't regret doing it).
maestro8
2005-10-25, 05:45 AM
I'm bummed out because someone left me negative feedback
Do you get bent when some yahoo on the side of the road yells "you suck" while you ride by on your you-knee-sickle? I'm sure by now you've learned not to taunt the barking dogs. As I posted earlier, the points system is in its infancy and everything will work out over time. Continue to post with your usual vivacity, vim and vigor and your point holdings will grow, like a large-cap mutual fund... there may be some dips here and there but over time you'll come out on top!
uni57
2005-10-25, 07:18 AM
Do you get bent when some yahoo on the side of the road yells "you suck" while you ride by on your you-knee-sickle? I'm sure by now you've learned not to taunt the barking dogs. Quiet disdain or quiet laughter at their sorry, pathetic state is often the safest strategic maneuver (in other words, shut up and do nothing).
Continue to post with your usual vivacity, vim and vigor and your point holdings will grow, like a large-cap mutual fund... there may be some dips here and there but over time you'll come out on top!Thanks, that's a cool analogy (although I'm not sure I agree with your investment strategy). But actually, I don't really care that much about my reputation points. Many of the people here will know me -- and they will have their opinion of me one way or the other, independent of points. I was just curious how such a short and innocuous post could possibly have offended somebody. It puzzled me and I thought that maybe somebody could shed some light.
Oh, and please don't compliment me. It's too weird coming from you. :)
Oh, and please don't compliment me. It's too weird coming from you.
Watch out or we'll get Billy to say something nice to you.
john_childs
2005-10-25, 07:45 AM
Watch out or we'll get Billy to say something nice to you.
Whew! I'm safe there. ;)
Billy is never going to say anything nice about me since I voted for Bush and shop at Wal*Mart.
uni57
2005-10-25, 08:02 AM
Watch out or we'll get Billy to say something nice to you.Actually, Billy is always brimming over with syrupy niceness. It's insidious because he uses that tone as he deliberately pushes my buttons. His niceness drives me nuts!
Now to get him to agree with me... that would be something.
john_childs
2005-10-25, 08:06 AM
One thing I've noticed is that more than 75% of the rep votes I've received have been for posts in Just Conversation and the vast majority of those have been for fluff threads like this one. Only two rep votes for posts in r.s.u.
If you're going to give reputation votes give them for posts that deserve it. And give them for posts of substance (either positive substance or negative substance). Just giving out reputation points randomly does not tell the receiver much at all. Linking the vote to a post that you feel worthy of a positive or negative vote is more informative.
Whew! I'm safe there. ;)
Billy is never going to say anything nice about me since I voted for Bush and shop at Wal*Mart.Haven't you recently started doing abortions as well?
Just giving out reputation points randomly does not tell the receiver much at all.Yeah, as a rule, if you're not willing to put your name to the 'comments' attached to the rep points, you shouldn't be giving them. Good or bad.
yoopers
2005-10-25, 12:57 PM
Linking the vote to a post that you feel worthy of a positive or negative vote is more informative.
I've found that the words "Rep Points" in the left column are already a link to the post for which the points were left.
I know I said I'd probably never look at Rep Points again, but now it's sort of interesting to see how the game is being played out.
B
maestro8
2005-10-25, 05:00 PM
Oh, and please don't compliment me. It's too weird coming from you. :)
Go get stuffed.
Is that better?
Forgive me, I graduated from college recently and went on a nice long vacation; I'm much less grumpy these days ('tho I still got the "bad blood" in me).
James_Potter
2005-10-25, 07:39 PM
dude...like a TON of people are giving me negative rep points, and leaving mean comments too ):
fexnix
2005-10-25, 07:40 PM
dude...like a TON of people are giving me negative rep points, and leaving mean comments too ):
happends top me too.
IF I give reps, I write my name in there.
uni57
2005-10-25, 09:15 PM
Are there people out there committing random acts of negative rep-giving?
Also, in the beginning, I think it is okay to give positive reputation points retroactively. In other words, someone has contributed greatly to these forums. Today they make an average post. It occurs to you to give them reputation. So, you link it to their average post, simply because it's there and you are thinking about it. (WHY do you have a general desire to give them reputation? Because of their past contributions. So, the reputation is deserved.)
I'm probably guilty of not taking the reputation system entirely seriously. Should we (take the reputation system seriously)? We should either not bother with it, or use it correctly, whatever that means.
uni57
2005-10-25, 09:54 PM
LOL, look what happened here (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=379816#post379816). Sounds like some sort of "technical" offense.
I'm starting to think that the reputation system is more trouble than it's worth. On the other hand, it was fun to get some really nice reputation feedback comments, but those comments could easily have been put in the thread itself.
But getting back to what happened to UNIquelyCanadian (and others), how freely should one give negative reputation? Personally, I would save it for the most egregious offenses only. But I would much more readily give positive reputation. Is it correct to be quick to compliment/thank/encourage/reward and slow to criticize? (in "real life", I think the answer is yes) Or should it be balanced?
I guess if the reputation system works, it might help new members, but new members don't stay new forever. They read and they learn who's who. That's what we do in life. Do we really need an automated system? I can form my own opinions, thank you very much. In real life, I try to base my opinions of people on first-hand experience only, not what other people say about the person.
(I'm not against the reputation system; I'm just having serious doubts about it.)
James_Potter
2005-10-26, 02:33 AM
yaaay, a bunch of people just gave me happy rep points!! (: that makes me feel happy now.
I can form my own opinions, thank you very much. In real life, I try to base my opinions of people on first-hand experience only, not what other people say about the person.Very true. In the faceless, nameless world of the internet, I still think it's nice to have an 'automated system' that gives us an indication of who it's worth bothering to get an opinion about.
Should we (take the reputation system seriously)? We should either not bother with it, or use it correctly, whatever that means.
Yes, I think we should.
UniTyler
2005-10-28, 03:16 AM
Latest report (still not begging!):
T shirt Idea to end all ... 2005-10-27 04:46 AM Ahh you pay for your misdeeds : )
Is anybody out there? 2005-10-25 10:34 PM I heard you were planning some mashed potatoes for Thanks Giving
Rep points? 2005-10-24 11:36 PM I'll give you some good rep for turning away from the rep-begging. I think this rep thing is a really kewl feature on the new forum and I don't like seeing it messed with.
Rep points? 2005-10-23 08:08 PM you were still begging Booom...
Rep points? 2005-10-23 07:21 PM Your post sucks
Rep points? 2005-10-23 03:56 PM You want rep? You got rep... beggar.
Rep points? 2005-10-23 03:07 PM Tyler is a lame-o.
Rep points? 2005-10-23 02:36 PM Quit swapping points with fexnix. Ok?
Rep points? 2005-10-22 04:58 PM
Rep points? 2005-10-22 10:24 AM Points for a worthwhile post? I think not
Rep points? 2005-10-22 09:26 AM
Rep points? 2005-10-22 06:22 AM give chosen some back
T1me To Over Throw Most ... 2005-10-22 01:51 AM for your post in TTOTMR
Rep points? 2005-10-21 08:43 AM weeeeezle
Rep points? 2005-10-20 09:18 AM SAY PLEASE! please...
jagur
2005-10-28, 05:58 AM
I think this rep thing is a really kewl feature on the new forum and I don't like seeing it messed with.
gee, i wonder who that was ;)
uni57
2005-10-28, 06:22 AM
gee, i wonder who that was ;)LOL. I got one that included the word "Thanx". Hmmm... where have I seen that spelling before?
yoopers
2005-10-28, 12:50 PM
........................................................................ ...............................
trials_uni
2005-10-29, 10:55 PM
w00t i gots 30 reps. but really i dont find my comments that usefull but thanks anyways
chosen
2005-10-30, 02:19 AM
i got 18. what the hax?
unitic
2005-10-30, 02:36 AM
I have -3. CRAP!
podzol
2005-10-30, 02:52 AM
I got bad rep points for not staying on topic in the just conversation tattoo thread!!!
Man, this is cutthroat! I was just trying to be conversational in just conversation. :(
cathwood
2005-10-30, 05:14 PM
I got bad rep points for not staying on topic in the just conversation tattoo thread!!!
Man, this is cutthroat! I was just trying to be conversational in just conversation. :(
Just incase you were thinking it - it being my tattoo and all. It wasn't me.
Cathy
podzol
2005-10-30, 05:28 PM
Just incase you were thinking it - it being my tattoo and all. It wasn't me.
Cathy
Hi Cathy,
No, of course I didn't think that! I have no basis to speculate who put it up there, and doing so wouldn't be very productive anyhow. The comment the person left was sarcastic really kind of nasty. But, it matters not.
I'd like to perpetuate my believe (delusion, maybe...) that unicyclists are all benevolent entities! THis is the only online forum I partake in and that's because it is so friendly and supportive so much of the time! Good people all around.
Happy 40! I have a year and a half to go and I'll be there, too!
B
forrestunifreak
2005-10-30, 05:30 PM
I got two negative ones for starting the 'thread creator' thread. Both said somthing along the lines of "more useless clutter".
In Just Conversation???
But I dont care. I think the rep points are a good thing.
Also, in the beginning, I think it is okay to give positive reputation points retroactively. In other words, someone has contributed greatly to these forums. Today they make an average post. It occurs to you to give them reputation. So, you link it to their average post, simply because it's there and you are thinking about it. (WHY do you have a general desire to give them reputation? Because of their past contributions. So, the reputation is deserved.)
Yes. I've done that.
cathwood
2005-10-30, 06:05 PM
I think in general the rep points are a good thing, although I do find paranoia creeping in now and again. But it's not good if it gives some people an opening to make nasty sarcastic comments like those Podzol got when in general people are, as she says, mainly nice and supportive on this forum (which is also why I hang out here).
Cathy
UniTyler
2005-10-31, 02:28 AM
The latest:
2 points
I got minused a bunch for the John Foss in his younger days thread
I got minused for nothing a few times with comments like "Tyler sucks" and "Lame-O"
Hopefully I can pick some up from my informative distance ride post.
Finally, I'm NOT BEGGING
UniTyler
2005-10-31, 02:43 AM
(past edit time)
Oh, and the person who said a bunch of stuff about the John Foss thread thankfully didn't have enough points or whatever, so I just got a gray mark. I know from the comments that it would have been red, though! I do agree with what you said, though (whoever you are), and I apologize. Won't happen again. :)
UniTyler
2005-10-31, 02:45 AM
Hi Cathy,
No, of course I didn't think that! I have no basis to speculate who put it up there, and doing so wouldn't be very productive anyhow. The comment the person left was sarcastic really kind of nasty. But, it matters not.
I'd like to perpetuate my believe (delusion, maybe...) that unicyclists are all benevolent entities! THis is the only online forum I partake in and that's because it is so friendly and supportive so much of the time! Good people all around.
Happy 40! I have a year and a half to go and I'll be there, too!
B
That was a great post, Podzol, that deserves good rep! I agree totally.
skate4flip
2005-10-31, 02:54 AM
wait.... can you view how many rep points other people have?
john_childs
2005-10-31, 03:51 AM
wait.... can you view how many rep points other people have?
Only if you're Gilby.
But you can view the Members List and sort on reputation points. That will let you see if someone has more or less than you.
jagur
2005-10-31, 06:06 AM
That was a great post, Podzol, that deserves good rep! I agree totally.LOL. instead of begging, now you are pandering for rep.
halfbike
2005-10-31, 06:22 AM
Please sir, I want some reps...
unitic
2005-10-31, 09:17 PM
Now i have minus 12 points! HELP ME!
unitic
2005-10-31, 09:19 PM
Nope, make that -22. s@#$
Gilby
2005-10-31, 09:34 PM
Now i have minus 12 points! HELP ME! OK, in order to not get bad rep:
Do not resurrect old threads, especially with a post that only says "whoa!!!" in super large text. (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=381644#post381644)
Do not make random useless replys. (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=381355#post381355)
Do not answer a thread when you really don't know the answer, thus just confusing people with inaccurate info. (you didn't do this though)
Don't "chat" in RSU or non-chatty type threads in just conversation (leave the chatty stuff for the most replies thread or similar threads).
Many other things that may add clutter and waste people's time.How to get good rep:
Post new and interesting stuff about unicycling. (videos, products, projects, ride stories/adventures, events, etc.)
Ask a question that others will find useful and can't be easily found by searching.
Answer a question with useful and accurate information.
Other posts that add value to the unicyclist community.
maestro8
2005-11-01, 12:00 AM
wait.... can you view how many rep points other people have?
Only if you're Gilby.
...or if you read any of UniTyler's posts... of which every other post includes his latest rep point count :rolleyes:
unitic
2005-11-01, 01:46 AM
Thanks for the advice Gilby!
UNIquelyCanadian
2005-11-01, 03:26 AM
OK, in order to not get bad rep:
Do not resurrect old threads, especially with a post that only says "whoa!!!" in super large text. (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=381644#post381644)
Do not make random useless replys. (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=381355#post381355)
Do not answer a thread when you really don't know the answer, thus just confusing people with inaccurate info. (you didn't do this though)
Don't "chat" in RSU or non-chatty type threads in just conversation (leave the chatty stuff for the most replies thread or similar threads).
Many other things that may add clutter and waste people's time.How to get good rep:
Post new and interesting stuff about unicycling. (videos, products, projects, ride stories/adventures, events, etc.)
Ask a question that others will find useful and can't be easily found by searching.
Answer a question with useful and accurate information.
Other posts that add value to the unicyclist community.
I'm glad there is a kind of a guideline now. I was never sure what deserves a negative rep, I didn't want to be too picky.
~Cameron
tomblackwood
2005-11-01, 06:04 AM
Has anyone noticed that you can't give rep points to the same person twice in a row?
I just tried, and received the following reply:
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to this_member again."
So, my apologies to whoever I'm about to slam so I can finish giving my positive rep to the guy/gal who helped me out. :p
Has anyone noticed that you can't give rep points to the same person twice in a row?It seems to be a bit longer than 'twice in a row'. I still owe Bruce for asking Mary if he can get a mail-order russian bride (it's a long story) and I can't seem to give it to him, no matter how mush I try 'n spread the rep around.
Maybe Gilby can weigh in and clarify this one?
tomblackwood
2005-11-01, 06:13 AM
So, my apologies to whoever I'm about to slam so I can finish giving my positive rep to the guy/gal who helped me out. :p
Alright, now I'm pi$$ed. I conducted a "search and dis" mission to "spread the rep" so I could then distribute some positive rep where it was very well deserved, and even after all that and logging off and back on, I still get the same "spread the love around before you praise this_person agian" message. Note to designers, sometimes a few individuals are VERY helpful, and hence should be able to accumulate "rapidly cumulative rep". Assume most people mean well, versus designing the system to foil the "gamers".
Maybe you can only give positive rep again after giving positive rep to someone else?
tomblackwood
2005-11-01, 06:26 AM
Maybe you can only give positive rep again after giving positive rep to someone else?
Interesting theory...testing now, with you as beneficiary. It was either that or Tyler's distance thread. :)
tomblackwood
2005-11-01, 06:28 AM
Interesting theory...testing now, with you as beneficiary.
Nope...still can't praise the praiseworthy.
john_childs
2005-11-01, 06:33 AM
Nope...still can't praise the praiseworthy.
Keep spreading the spread around and you'll eventually be able to give another dose. It took me a while before I was finally able to give another worthy dose to a certain someone.
uni57
2005-11-01, 06:38 AM
... every other post includes his latest rep count :rolleyes:Which reminds me, I have 63 points, and I haven't posted anything useful in ages.
Are there people out there committing random acts of negative rep-giving?FYI, I just received confirmation that people are indeed committing random acts of negative rep-giving. I got negative rep with a comment of "yes" in response the above question I posted. LOL! I should have anticipated that.
In the interest of fairness and not skewing our relative reps in the name of research, I've returned the rep unused and it's original packaging.
yoopers
2005-11-01, 01:44 PM
Ahh, my first red square. It came for this post (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showpost.php?p=379766&postcount=94). How can I ever live with myself for committing such a grievous error?
yoopers
2005-11-01, 01:52 PM
Anonymous red?
Yep. But it only dropped me one point. I suppose all is not lost.
Yeah, somebody's bark is worse than their bite, obviously.
Miss Ayelery
2005-11-01, 03:51 PM
I've returned the rep unused and it's original packaging.It looks like you've had a little backslide, dear, after all the progress we were making.
I don't think you meant to say "I've returned the rep unused and it is original packaging", did you?
Remember, "it's" gets an apostrophe only when being used as a contraction, and not when being used in its possessive form.
MA
yoopers
2005-11-01, 03:51 PM
Wow, they're dropping like flies! Oh well, I've not had any takers on my Rep Points For Sale bid anyway.
It looks like you've had a little backslide, dearWell, I have been working out. Thanx for noticing.
redhead
2005-11-01, 09:55 PM
SHE'S BACK IN Black
UniTyler
2005-11-01, 11:16 PM
I'm currently at 64 points! :)
unijesse
2005-11-01, 11:23 PM
I'm currently at 64 points! :)
hey tyler people keep sending me reps and say there from you:confused:
UniTyler
2005-11-02, 12:05 AM
Jesse,
Sorry to hear that. That's stupid because I don't recall ever giving you a single rep. I wonder if there is some way for Gilby to prevent this?
-Tyler
UniTyler
2005-11-02, 12:50 AM
Whoever this was, all I can say is that you really should take your jealousy out on a pillow or something and not my rep. Not only did you brake Gilby's rules, but you also just took me down rep for no reason whatsoever. If you say who you are on this thread, I would give you good rep for being a good man.
UniTyler
2005-11-02, 12:56 AM
The same goes for you, dude. Just say who you are and you get GOOD REP for being a real man.
skate4flip
2005-11-02, 01:02 AM
I havent received any bad rep points yet.:D Although i have to comments saying that i look like a red eyed devil in one my pictures of me juggling 5 balls (in my gallery). They were positive or a grey mark though.
forrestunifreak
2005-11-02, 01:07 AM
Whoever this was, all I can say is that you really should take your jealousy out on a pillow or something and not my rep. Not only did you brake Gilby's rules, but you also just took me down rep for no reason whatsoever. If you say who you are on this thread, I would give you good rep for being a good man.
Dont worry Tyler, people are just jealus.
I had 44, but went down to 21 for the 'Thread Creator' thread I made. Talk about lame.
john_childs
2005-11-02, 01:08 AM
I have also gotten some negative reputation from this thread. No comment given. No reason for it. If it gets out of hand Gilby can always step in and play admin god and strike with lightning bolts from the sky.
Don't get hung up on the reputation score. It's a neat system for encouraging people to better behave. Treat it as such. Don't worry whether your score goes up or down on a particular day. That's like watching the stock market. It'll drive you crazy. Just relax and don't watch it on a daily basis. It's not a competition and it hopefully won't turn into a popularity contest.
mscalisi
2005-11-02, 01:14 AM
Ha! Thats easy for you to say Mr. "has a great spectacular about"
Don't get hung up on the reputation score.
john_childs
2005-11-02, 01:20 AM
Ha! Thats easy for you to say Mr. "has a great spectacular about"
I post the same regardless.
The score isn't important, but it is nice to get good comments. Anonymous empty negative votes are just that -- empty.
mscalisi
2005-11-02, 01:27 AM
I know...I was joking, and I COMPLETELY mistyped the whole "has a spectacular aura about" thing.
I post the same regardless.
The score isn't important, but it is nice to get good comments. Anonymous empty negative votes are just that -- empty.
Gilby
2005-11-02, 02:15 AM
I have also gotten some negative reputation from this thread. No comment given. No reason for it. If it gets out of hand Gilby can always step in and play admin god and strike with lightning bolts from the sky.
Don't get hung up on the reputation score. It's a neat system for encouraging people to better behave. Treat it as such. Don't worry whether your score goes up or down on a particular day. That's like watching the stock market. It'll drive you crazy. Just relax and don't watch it on a daily basis. It's not a competition and it hopefully won't turn into a popularity contest. Yeah, I could edit them, but ultimately, I hope the system works better than that. though I may take the google approach and alter the algorithm (such as making rep given in RSU worth more than rep given in JC).
Like JC said, the reputation swing is not something you should get hung up on. Right now it's pretty early so there is going to be a lot more fluctuations. Just think, right now a rep by JC will change your rep by 20 points, which is a large fluctation for most.
forrestunifreak
2005-11-02, 02:37 AM
Yeah, since its so new, everybody's going overboard. After the excitment wears down a little, I'll bet people will calm down a little bit.
Beener
2005-11-02, 03:53 AM
Call me stupid, but I still can't find mine. It says I have 10 but I can't find the comments that everyone speaks of.
skate4flip
2005-11-02, 03:55 AM
click on User CP and then scroll down
Beener
2005-11-02, 04:00 AM
no, still nothing. If I push my own add reputation icon on a post, it says I have 10 points, but I hit user cp and then scroll and nothing. Edit, this and edit that, then messages, then blah, blah. Oh well, no biggie, not here to be popular anyway, just help out where I can.
skate4flip
2005-11-02, 04:07 AM
did you scroll all the way down? if you have any it should be under Latest Reputation Recieved which is right under subscribed threads.
Edit: i just gave you some. see if you see it now.
Gilby
2005-11-02, 05:15 AM
Call me stupid, but I still can't find mine. It says I have 10 but I can't find the comments that everyone speaks of.
10 was the default... now the default is 0 for new accounts.
This (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showpost.php?p=383459&postcount=142) little bit of attempted wit just cost me 1 Negative Rep point.
You can't have a sense of humour now?
Miss Ayelery
2005-11-02, 08:04 AM
This (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showpost.php?p=383459&postcount=142) little bit of attempted wit just cost me 1 Negative Rep point. You can't have a sense of humour now?
I'd just like to be clear that it was not me that gave you the negative rep, dear. While I admit to providing constructive feedback from time to time, it will always be via direct reply, not via the rep system. I think a number of the "junior members" of our community--of which there seem to be more each day--have taken the rep system a little too seriously, and they are dishing out negative rep points with very little cause, and also with no constructive accompanying comments.
That's what happens when a society becomes too permissive of its children. Today, I'm forced to type and "persuade" our youth to do the right thing. But back in my day, I'd just switch the hell out of them and believe me they'd come around much more quickly to the proper way of thinking. Some of them grew up real well too, which I wouldn't have bet on at the time.
MA
You can't have a sense of humour now?
I find it ironic that the two negative reps I have are the only ones that came without a reason at all, which strikes me as a bit pointless... how am I supposed to know what I did wrong or how I can improve if they don't say why?
Would it be practical to tweak the system to not allow rep-giving without a reason?
Phil
fexnix
2005-11-02, 12:06 PM
I get my negative rep for posting in TTOTMR! :D
That makes it even funnier to post in there.
TheObieOne3226
2005-11-02, 12:22 PM
It's not a competition and it hopefully won't turn into a popularity contest.
It seems to me that it already has. Some of the newer members are just trying to make themselves feel more important by trying to gather rep from anywhere possible. Also, (presumabley) the same people try to trip on power a little and give anyone they want negative rep on a seemingly random basis.
Maybe an appropriate method of control would be to limit the number of reps a person can give in a day to something like 2.
I got negative rep recently from someone who openly stated that it was in revenge for negative rep they assumed I had given them based on the time of one of my posts and the time they received negative rep. The problems here are that one can never know for sure who gave them the rep, and also, it is not a system made for retribution or personal vendettas.
I'll probably get a ton of negative rep for this post, but I don't really care because, in my opinion, the rep system is currently pretty useless. People who never post anything uselfull ever have higher rep totals than some of the established and helpful forum members (not talking about myself here). I base my readings on how well I know a person and how well they have helped me and others in the past. Basing it off of reps right now would not be the best method.
Bring on the negative reps kids.
I get my negative rep for posting in TTOTMR!Much as I'm against the misuse of the rep system, you're on your own I'm afraid...
yoopers
2005-11-02, 02:04 PM
This (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showpost.php?p=383459&postcount=142) little bit of attempted wit just cost me 1 Negative Rep point.
You can't have a sense of humour now?
Dave,
I about fell out of my chair when I read your initial response. I thought is was insanely creative. Keep up the good work.
Bruce
UniTyler
2005-11-02, 02:34 PM
I just received a bad rep for "whoring for rep." I was never whoring or doing anything wrong, so please, please stop giving me useless rep, whoever you are.
I think this discussion is getting very Schrodinger's Cat-ee.
The point's been made that the system needs to be running for quite a while before it will smooth out these little bumps we're seeing at the moment. And discussing it in this manner is probably simply causing more people to use it 'just for kicks'. Once this thread goes away and the discussion about the technical details of rep dies away, the system will start correcting itself and functioning more smoothly.
yoopers
2005-11-02, 02:47 PM
I just received a bad rep for "whoring for rep." I was never whoring or doing anything wrong, so please, please stop giving me useless rep, whoever you are.
Tyler,
The squeaky wheel gets the rep points, good and bad.
Bruce
UniTyler
2005-11-02, 02:56 PM
Tyler,
The squeaky wheel gets the rep points, good and bad.
Bruce
Gotcha! I see
Beener
2005-11-02, 03:00 PM
Sorry everyone, I found my rep points thingy, It never appeared before because people just gave rep and no comments. Thanks for the help. I am now learning to fly on my own.
forrestunifreak
2005-11-02, 10:29 PM
I think this thread can safely go away now. It seems as if it is only causing Tyler* trouble.
* And others. Not to sound negative against Tyler or 'nuthin.
fexnix
2005-11-03, 09:24 AM
according to someone im also whoring for rep! :D
Im selling my body in order to get rep, can you believe that?
chosen
2005-11-03, 08:19 PM
im bumping this thread again cuz someone just gave me negative rep for no reason. i was kinda just joking around in my above statement but the comments people leave can be really bad. if rep is that serious where you have to send me angry messages when sending rep points then grow up. it is not that serious in the big picture so relax folk.
Gilby
2005-11-03, 08:42 PM
im bumping this thread again cuz someone just gave me negative rep for no reason. i was kinda just joking around in my above statement but the comments people leave can be really bad. if rep is that serious where you have to send me angry messages when sending rep points then grow up. it is not that serious in the big picture so relax folk.
Haha... looking at your rep, your most recent bad rep is from this post in this thread:
tyler youre awesome- thanks for the rep- i have enough bad rep so some good is refreshing. cmon, my homies need to give me some good rep.
Please take the rep system seriously instead of "whoring for rep" as one negative rep giver said. :)
cathwood
2005-11-05, 02:06 PM
Gilby help. I want to give Mikefule rep points for his great stories and words of wisdom but I keep getting the spread some rep around thingy. I have spread some around and I don't think I've actually ever given him any cos I keep getting this message.
Cathy
Gilby
2005-11-05, 02:38 PM
You previously gave him some for this post: http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=369661#post369661
cathwood
2005-11-05, 03:38 PM
OK. But that was ages ago.
Cathy
chosen
2005-11-05, 05:53 PM
Please take the rep system seriously instead of "whoring for rep" as one negative rep giver said. :)
im not. i was just bein' nice to tyler and shootin' him a thanks. no biggy. but i guess to you it was.
UniTyler
2005-11-05, 06:13 PM
Just doin as I was told....
unitic
2005-11-07, 01:33 AM
I was just lookin' at the members list and I saw that I was about the only person that has negative rep. He he he. I got most of my bad rep from begging for rep. I'll never do that again, But its just stuff.
forrestunifreak
2005-11-07, 06:29 PM
Everyone gets negative rep...
forrestunifreak
2005-11-07, 06:57 PM
Just doin as I was told....
Huh?
Oh, you can put all that stuff in a rep comment? Um, cool...
Hey, john childs has 3 boxes already!
chosen
2005-11-08, 02:08 AM
what is the purpose of neutral rep? and how do you give neutral rep? like not green or red, just gray. i dont get that.
Unitik908
2005-11-08, 02:38 AM
Wow i have 48 now.. cool
Chase
Gilby
2005-11-08, 03:21 AM
what is the purpose of neutral rep? and how do you give neutral rep? like not green or red, just gray. i dont get that.
You get neutral rep is the person giving you rep has no rep power.
pete66
2005-11-10, 06:28 PM
Is it possible to see ALL your rep points history? I've got 9 points but according to my "latest reputation received" I've only ever had 2 people rate me.
How often does the "latest reputation received" delete old news?
Is it possible to see ALL your rep points history? I've got 9 points but according to my "latest reputation received" I've only ever had 2 people rate me.
The number of points you get depends on the reputation of the person adding to yours. A rating from someone with a better reputation will carry more weight than one from someone with a not so good reputation, so will gain you more points.
Phil
unitic
2005-11-11, 02:51 AM
Hey, John Childs, I have a question. How many rep points do you have?
Borges
2005-11-11, 01:33 PM
I only ever received neutral and negative rep.
How come I still have a positive score?
If I started out with positive rep, why didn't it show up before anyone rated me?
Morten
I think we all started with 10 points.
You probably got negative rep from people who's rep is so low that they hardly affected your score.
Why would anyone give you negative rep?
Borges
2005-11-11, 02:10 PM
I think we all started with 10 points.
You probably got negative rep from people who's rep is so low that they hardly affected your score.
Why would anyone give you negative rep?
I didn't get a reason. The post I got it for wasn't intended to be offensive, but appearently it was. I can see how it can be read the wrong way.
I have 6 points now, so starting with 10 seems about right.
I like that the system starts by giving peoble credit.
Just out of curiosity, which post was it?
I didn't get a reason.
Ooooo that really gets my goat, that does. I have two downvotes, both without a reason; what use is that? Grrrrr.
Phil
maestro8
2005-11-11, 06:25 PM
Ooooo that really gets my goat, that does.
Ooh, do you have one of those fainting goats?
Or a trampoline jumping goat?
http://cmsimg.enquirer.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=AB&Date=20051104&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=511040431&Ref=AR&MaxW=300&MaxH=700&border=0
Or a trampoline jumping goat?
Please, please, please say there's a video of that, those photos were fantastic! :)
Phil
subsonic87
2005-11-11, 07:02 PM
Please, please, please say there's a video of that, those photos were fantastic! :)
Phil
Don't make me call the ASPCA on you! ;)
cathwood
2005-11-11, 09:57 PM
I'm not impressed that someone can call me names without me even knowing who it is. Or say that I'm stupid, just because they don't share my point of view.
Cathy
john_childs
2005-11-11, 10:16 PM
I'm not impressed that someone can call me names without me even knowing who it is. Or say that I'm stupid, just because they don't share my point of view.
Cathy
That's lame. That is not how the reputation system should be used.
The reputation system should not be used to ding people with political points of view different from your own. That is just cowardly anonymous retaliation. If you disagree politically with someone then spell it out publicly in the thread. Don't hide behind anonymity to take a cheap shot.
We have people with differing points of political view here. That is inevitable when communicating in an international forum. All the political discussions have stayed civil. No one here holds a grudge for differing views. No need to feel you can't speak your mind here.
Remember that you are only anonymous to everyone here but Gilby. If you want Gilby to know that you take anonymous cheap shots then so be it.
pete66
2005-11-11, 10:24 PM
lol, surely gilby should restrain from reading anonymous rep messages and PMs? I mean, not that I've got much to hide but still...
Gilby
2005-11-11, 10:24 PM
I agree that this person's negative rep was not appropriate.
The point of the rep system is to give positive rep for posts that add to the forums, such as a different perpective, factual information, etc. Negative rep should be given when that is not the case, such as short worthless responses or erroneous information is posted.
In this case it appeared that the rep was given because they simply did not agree with the opinion in the post, which is misuse of the rep system.
cathwood
2005-11-11, 10:27 PM
No need to feel you can't speak your mind here.
Oh yes there is, because I got even more negative rep for this post.
Cathy
Gilby
2005-11-11, 10:30 PM
But how much did it actually drop your points? Not much. Usually it's the people that inappropriately use the rep system that are also making inappropriate posts, so they have little rep to really give.
cathwood
2005-11-11, 10:32 PM
Thank you. That's a comfort.
Cathy
pete66
2005-11-11, 10:37 PM
oops, I gave Cathwood some negative rep coz she'd posted "I'm not impressed that someone can call me names without me even knowing who it is."...
So to explain, I found the post kinda frustrating because she hadn't actually gone on to say whether or not anybody had called her names or whether she was just unimpressed by the potential there.
Anybody know what I mean? You read a post and it's like "yeah, so?"
She edited her post to my liking after I'd given her the rep. Cath, You deserve some positive rep for your potentially thoughtful edit :p
cathwood
2005-11-11, 10:41 PM
oops, I gave Cathwood some negative rep coz she'd posted "I'm not impressed that someone can call me names without me even knowing who it is."...
So to explain, I found the post kinda frustrating because she didn't actually go on to say whether or not anybody had called her names or whether she was just unimpressed by the potential there.
Anybody know what I mean? You read a post and it's like "yeah, so?"
She edited her post to my liking after I'd given her the rep. Cath, You deserve some positive rep for your thoughtful edit :p
Sorry, I do have a habit of forgetting that people can't read my mind.
Cathy
pete66
2005-11-11, 10:53 PM
No worries, I'm sorry, it was pretty harsh. Anybody familiar with Tall Poppy Syndrome? :rolleyes:
Gilby
2005-11-11, 11:13 PM
And you appear as number 11 when sorting by rep: http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/memberlist.php?&order=DESC&sort=reputation&pp=30
mscalisi
2005-11-11, 11:26 PM
Interestingly, the people who gave me positive rep signed their names, but the people who gave me negative rep did not.
Even more interestingly, the people have gave me negative rep didn't seem to affect my score much if any.
The reputation system should not be used to ding people with political points of view different from your own. That is just cowardly anonymous retaliation. If you disagree politically with someone then spell it out publicly in the thread. Don't hide behind anonymity to take a cheap shot.
unitic
2005-11-11, 11:55 PM
I have negative rep again! Crap, but things happen.
Gilby
2005-11-12, 08:48 PM
lol, surely gilby should restrain from reading anonymous rep messages and PMs? I mean, not that I've got much to hide but still...
I have added a note on the page where reputation is given that the user and forum adminstrator may see the comments. I may at times monitor the reputation system to make sure everything is working smoothly and that it's beig used for the intended purpose of it.
As for PMs, I won't view others. Though if someone reports abuse, such as spam (happened a month ago), I will look into issues such as that and that may include looking at the messages associated with the abuse.
cathwood
2005-11-12, 09:23 PM
I have added a note on the page where reputation is given that the user and forum adminstrator may see the comments. I may at times monitor the reputation system to make sure everything is working smoothly and that it's beig used for the intended purpose of it.
As for PMs, I won't view others. Though if someone reports abuse, such as spam (happened a month ago), I will look into issues such as that and that may include looking at the messages associated with the abuse.
Perhaps pete66 has a guilty conscience. I noticed he didn't confess to giving me bad rep until he knew that Gilby could read it. :)
I know that I'm not the only one who has had 'personal' neg rep (see earlier on in this thread). It's too easy to get nasty if things are annonymous and no-one is keeping an eye on things.
Cathy
pete66
2005-11-12, 09:43 PM
No it was just that you edited your post that I'd rep'd you on - & you sounded a bit upset so I felt obligated to explain myself. I've only taken credit for bad rep so far so there you have it and I've given out about 10x as much good rep as I have bad rep.
jagur
2005-11-13, 01:13 AM
a rep box doesnt pop up anymore now, it goes to a full page.
unitic
2005-11-13, 04:05 AM
hmmm. I have gray rep. I only had that when I first joined the site. Whatever.
unitic
2005-11-13, 04:30 AM
I guess peaple think I'm a "lunitic"(unitic).:D :D
UniTyler
2005-11-13, 04:30 AM
hmmm. I have gray rep. I only had that when I first joined the site. Whatever.
That means you have a neutral rep count. :)
unitic
2005-11-13, 04:31 AM
Thats what I meant to say. Neutral not grey....
UniTyler
2005-11-13, 03:49 PM
I have had to learn the hard way, but I have some advice for you guys:
I suggest you DO NOT post in here and make your rep a big known fact. Just keep it to yourself, make useful theads like this (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44685) and that (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44676) and trust me, you will get good rep. Some more advice: Don't go in a thread and reply, "I don't know" because that doesn't help your rep at all and it doesn't help the poster. I think a problem we have is that we post to "hear" ourselves post, and not to actually benefit the thread starter. Like Bruce said, "The squeaky wheel gets the rep, good and bad."
harper
2005-11-13, 06:31 PM
I'm not impressed that someone can call me names without me even knowing who it is. Or say that I'm stupid, just because they don't share my point of view.
Cathy
Hey, Cathy. Someone must be stalking your threads. I just got negative rep for answering your "Quick Jumping Question" thread. I love goofy stuff like that. I wonder if I'll be able to sleep tonig....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZ.
I guess no one ever gave me any reps. I cant find them and such.
Brian MacKenzie
2005-11-13, 07:07 PM
I guess no one ever gave me any reps. I cant find them and such.
I doubt that very much. Perhaps you missed something? ;)
cathwood
2005-11-13, 07:41 PM
Hey, Cathy. Someone must be stalking your threads. I just got negative rep for answering your "Quick Jumping Question" thread. I love goofy stuff like that. I wonder if I'll be able to sleep tonig....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZ.
Some kind of vendetta do you think? :o
Cathy
mscalisi
2005-11-14, 05:04 AM
I got negative rep for this one:
Interestingly, the people who gave me positive rep signed their names, but the people who gave me negative rep did not. Even more interestingly, the people have gave me negative rep didn't seem to affect my score much if any.
I wonder if it was the same person. They reenforced my second point.
Hey, Cathy. Someone must be stalking your threads. I just got negative rep for answering your "Quick Jumping Question" thread. I love goofy stuff like that. I wonder if I'll be able to sleep tonig....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZ.
uni57
2005-11-14, 05:34 AM
It's too easy to get nasty if things are annonymous and no-one is keeping an eye on things. No it isn't. No it isn't at all. We have the nicest people here. Just look at how wonderfully we get along on the forums. There is a sense of community and kinship. Contrast that with other forums. Unicyclists are the best and we respect each other.
jagur
2005-11-14, 08:26 AM
I wonder if it was the same person..i dont think so,,,if you try to give rep to the same person twice it seems to for-ever say "you must spread some rep around b4 giving such and such rep again"
i have yet to be able to give rep twice to some-one.
cathwood
2005-11-14, 10:52 AM
No it isn't. No it isn't at all. We have the nicest people here. Just look at how wonderfully we get along on the forums. There is a sense of community and kinship. Contrast that with other forums. Unicyclists are the best and we respect each other.
I agreed completely with this until this weekend and I still believe in it in spirit. But there is obviously at least 1 person who is not so nice. And we do have to contend with human nature.
I agree most people here are lovely and supportive. But I think that some people do have experience that people are 'nastier' when they are annonymous to when they have to stand up and be counted. (me for example, if you read the preceeding threads).
Cathy
UNIquelyCanadian
2005-11-14, 11:34 PM
I came across a, interesting quote: "A good test for conversation: if you wouldn't write it and sign your name to it, don't say it."
That would apply to negative reps as well!
~Cameron
www.camerondonaldson.com
yoopers
2005-11-15, 12:17 AM
I came across a, interesting quote: "A good test for conversation: if you wouldn't write it and sign your name to it, don't say it."
That would apply to negative reps as well!
~Cameron
www.camerondonaldson.com
But the other side of it is that perhaps anonymous negative rep used in proper form will negate the possibility of meaningless retaliation, which will happen. I've admittedly been concerned about it. Immaturity hits both sides of the street here. An immature post may need to be negatively repped but the immaturity behind the post will result in an immature retaliation.
But the even bigger truth is, the reason for leaving rep feedback is based on personal judgement and one person's rational reasoning may be idiotic to another. Who's to judge?
UniBrier
2005-11-15, 02:09 AM
How much rep do you have to spread around before you can give rep to a person again?
cathwood
2005-11-15, 09:27 AM
How much rep do you have to spread around before you can give rep to a person again?
I'd like to know this too. Can you ever give the same person rep twice?
Cathy
jagur
2005-11-16, 08:50 AM
How much rep do you have to spread around before you can give rep to a person again?How much Rep could a good Ref give, if a good Ref would give Rep?
munimanpete
2005-11-16, 08:54 AM
wow that is surprisingly hard...nice one jagur...
on the topic im on a distinguished road or something, pretty sure im in my lounge not on a road but meh....haha like my joke, pretty funny i thought.
squeegy
2005-11-16, 10:43 PM
how much rep must you have to have a double green box?
yoopers
2005-11-17, 12:36 AM
how much rep must you have to have a double green box?
Looks like it's another green box for every 100 rep points.
redhead
2005-11-17, 01:48 AM
Intresting about the 100 rep points. I dont think all ever get that high:o
maxisback
2005-11-17, 01:55 AM
I At -30!!! Beat That Noobs
pete66
2005-11-17, 07:28 PM
Go maxis, maybe u can be the 1st to reach 2 red boxes?
chosen
2005-11-17, 08:22 PM
people give chosen bad rep for being honest, or just trying to lighten the mood and be funny. and my hater blocker is broke, im kinda in a fix.
forrestunifreak
2005-11-17, 08:27 PM
Go maxis, maybe u can be the 1st to reach 2 red boxes?
Yeah! Give max bad rep to be nice to him! If you want to give him bad rep, give him positive!
tomblackwood
2005-11-19, 04:47 AM
I just got negative rep for answering your "Quick Jumping Question" thread. I love goofy stuff like that. I wonder if I'll be able to sleep tonig....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZ.
Yeah, I just got negative rep for my language in this (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=391262#post391262) post. Guess that exclamation point just wasn't enough to disguise it :rolleyes:. Maybe I'm just getting on in years, but I think I liked it better before when I was able to figger out all by myself who I wanted to pay attention to and who I didn't.
unitic
2005-11-24, 06:28 PM
I just had 8+ rep points and now I have only 2+. well, I guess thats good enuogh. Oh well......
boo radley
2005-11-24, 08:08 PM
i think as the rep of the people who gave you negative goes up, it makes yours go down more
unitic
2005-11-24, 11:25 PM
I gave good rep to someone and they said that it was only neutral rep. Why the heck is that!
forrestunifreak
2005-12-17, 12:01 AM
Haha, I think john_childs has reached such a high rep level, he cant get any higher.
"john_childs is just plain nice"
:D
uniMcPeat
2005-12-17, 12:02 AM
How many do you have to get to get 2 green boxes?
forrestunifreak
2005-12-17, 12:03 AM
How many do you have to get to get 2 green boxes?
100 points.
uniMcPeat
2005-12-17, 12:09 AM
100 points.
Awww....Ive got 70
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