New Pope

[JJuggle]

Looks like it will be interesting times for the Catholic (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=12&u=/ap/pope_ratzinger_profile) faith.

[UNIquelyCanadian]

Hmmm...

[Unitik908]

Benedict XVI hes muh boy dizzle.

Chase

[PopeSamXVI]

I was so close! I thought it would be an Italian for sure. But I was right on the conservative aspect. Good old Ratzinger, John Paul II's right hand man. I suppose an Italian couldn't get a majority.

Man, Benedict's old. Guess he's just there to soften the blow.

[Ed Hansen]

Woohoo! This is such great news! Now we can all...... ummm, now all of us can.... Oh, uhm, now finally everyone will be able to..... Well..... Come to think of it not a damned thing has changed. Oh well. At least someone's mom is proud.

ps....... It is my understanding that in his younger days, this new pope was a soldier in the German Army under the Nazi regime. Does this mean that somewhere out there, someone was shot and/or killed by the pope?

Talk about a news story.

just my two cents.

Ed

[JJuggle]

Originally posted by Ed Hansen
ps....... It is my understanding that in his younger days, this new pope was a soldier in the German Army under the Nazi regime. Curiously enough I, the Jew, was more willing to let the fact that he was in the Hitler youth - it is said that he was compelled - and served in the German army during WWII - seems he deserted, though waited until 1945 - be forgiven more than my wife, a former Catholic, is.

I think this is a bad time in history for the Catholic Church to have selected such a hardline, conservative as Pope when the whole rest of the world is trying to convince the Islamic world to modernize and democratize. Personally I think it sets a bad example.

[munipsycho]

Originally posted by Ed Hansen
[BDoes this mean that somewhere out there, someone was shot and/or killed by the pope?[/B]
(me) *laughs*

I'm guessing he's not really out there anywhere anymore.

[Ed Hansen]

Originally posted by munipsycho
(me) *laughs*

I'm guessing he's not really out there anywhere anymore.

re-phrase:

Does that mean that somewhere someone was shot by the pope? Or even someone was killed by the pope?

[JJuggle]

Originally posted by Ed Hansen
re-phrase:

Does that mean that somewhere someone was shot by the pope? Or even someone was killed by the pope? This (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/19/world/main689498.shtml) says he did not see any combat.

[jagur]

the last pope was John Paul,i thought the next one would be.........











































George Ringo
:D

[kristine]

I think its funny
I heard every one talking about the nazi thing today... its funny. I dont care.... I just hope they stop making a big deal about the pope thing now, I got sick of hearing about it. Seems justas the news of hes dying.dead got over, then its news of a new pope to control the news stations, and interrupt our scheduled programing.

Note, not religious and couldnt care less about the pope...
And I dotn mean this as disrespectful to people who care... although it probably is, so I appoligize now, but I had to. I have lost my self control for the night.

[jagur]

I got sick of hearing about it. and just think the new pope is 78...we get to do this all over agian soon :(

(im off to the tavern)

[kristine]

yeah... I vote no.
Someone was saying that seeing a pope die, and another one elected was a once in a lifetime thing...and how were seeing history being made which is rare.

What were they thinking? I forget who... but... I meanseriously..he could die tomorrow at his age. It could happen twice in a year.

Then again, I could die tomorrow

[jagur]

Someone was saying that seeing a pope die, and another one elected was a once in a lifetime thing...and how were seeing history being made which is rare. well sorta, but the pope before J.Paul lived for a week or somthing. i cant remember and wasnt alive to be tortured by it, but i think thats what happend.

EDIT: back from the tavern.

[kristine]

yeah, well I just cant see it being something thats a once in a life time thing.

I mean, I'm 19 and JP 2 died...
next guy is 78 now, so say, 10 years max (he;ll out live his life span then...)

So, he shoudl be (talking life spans) passed away by the time I'm 20.

They get a new pope. Say, he 50 at the youngest...
I'll be 29. Chances are he'll die before me.

I dunno-it doesnt seem too rare to me thinking of it like that.

[JJuggle]

Originally posted by kristine
I dunno-it doesnt seem too rare to me thinking of it like that. There have now been 51 popes in the last 500 years and 260 (or 265, I can't recall which) in total. It's pretty easy to do the math as far as how often on average they change. At 26 years John Paul II had a longer than average tenure.

[yoopers]

Well, Raphael, I'm pretty bummed that I voted for you and you didn't win. I even had a yard sign out, "Raphael for Pope!" Maybe next time.

[GILD]

Originally posted by jagur
the last pope was John Paul,i thought the next one would be.........

George Ringo
:D i'll be smiling about that for a while
thanx

the 'Nazi-Pope' thing has got more to do with his fascist attitude towards running the church than being forced to join the Hitler Youth as a kid
it is insanely scary to see another major position of power occupied by one of his ilk

Malachy's (http://www.dayofgod.net/Malachy/malachy.htm) prophecy just keeps getting more interesting

[JJuggle]

Originally posted by yoopers
Well, Raphael, I'm pretty bummed that I voted for you and you didn't win. I even had a yard sign out, "Raphael for Pope!" Maybe next time. Thanks, Cardinal Bruce.

[GILD]

Originally posted by yoopers
I even had a yard sign out, "Raphael for Pope!" that is too funny
i want to see a pic

[GILD]

another interesting papal adventure (http://beta.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050419/pl_afp/vaticanpopeus)
original letter (http://www.priestsforlife.org/magisterium/bishops/04-07ratzingerommunion.htm)

[yoopers]

Originally posted by GILD
that is too funny
i want to see a pic

[Brian MacKenzie]

I voted for Pedro

[JJuggle]

I'm touched, Bruce. ;)

[harper]

I thought Raphael already was the pope. My lack of vote was wasted? I made a cardinal effort, too.

[UNIquelyCanadian]

Harper, I've been wondering for a while, are you "The Harper" of the infamous photo? If so, what do you look like in real life?

[JJuggle]

Originally posted by UNIquelyCanadian
Harper, I've been wondering for a while, are you "The Harper" of the infamous photo? If so, what do you look like in real life? What is not "real life" about the "infamous photo"?

[harper]

Originally posted by UNIquelyCanadian
Harper, I've been wondering for a while, are you "The Harper" of the infamous photo? If so, what do you look like in real life?

I am and that's a photo taken maybe three years ago and it's pretty much how I look today. Except I've washed the swimsuit a couple of times. Ask Brian. He lives in your hometown. I didn't wear the swimsuit when we went bowling but I do all of the rest of the time. I originally did the pose for the FACES (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/faces) gallery where I'm in the 12th photo.

[weeble]

Originally posted by harper
I am and that's a photo taken maybe three years ago and it's pretty much how I look today. Except I've washed the swimsuit a couple of times. Ask Brian. He lives in your hometown. I didn't wear the swimsuit when we went bowling but I do all of the rest of the time. I originally did the pose for the FACES (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/faces) gallery where I'm in the 12th photo.

I can't wait to see the bowling pictures...

[PopeSamXVI]

Originally posted by JJuggle
Curiously enough I, the Jew, was more willing to let the fact that he was in the Hitler youth - it is said that he was compelled - and served in the German army during WWII - seems he deserted, though waited until 1945 - be forgiven more than my wife, a former Catholic, is.

I think this is a bad time in history for the Catholic Church to have selected such a hardline, conservative as Pope when the whole rest of the world is trying to convince the Islamic world to modernize and democratize. Personally I think it sets a bad example.

He's 78. Second oldest pope in history. He's transitional. I just hope he doesn't know that, otherwise he may call Vatican III.

[GILD]

Originally posted by JJuggle
I'm touched, Bruce. ;)
so, i suspect, is Bruce...

[JJuggle]

More news from the Papal Front:

'Pope-squatters' Hope To Cash In On Papal Domains
CMP TechWeb
April 19, 2005

Talk about sinners.

Web-savvy speculators snapping up domains of possible names for the next Pope
may have their best bet turning a dollar by selling not to the Vatican,
but to porn site operators, a Web metrics firm said Tuesday.

"Speculators are buying up domains connected to names that might be adopted by
the new Catholic leader," U.K.-based Netcraft said. Among the
"pope-squatters" was blogger Rogers Cadenhead, who admitted to grabbing
half a dozen domains earlier this month.

"My money's on one of these six names: BenedictXVI, Clement XV, Innocent XIV,
Leo XIV, Paul VII, Pius XIII," Cadenhead wrote. "I mean this literally. I
registered all six of these as dot-com domain names earlier this month,
which I feared was tacky -- to say nothing of soul-imperiling -- until I
read about the vacant papal see stamp. Clearly I'm not the only baptized
Catholic who gets geeked about this process."

Some potential papal names are already on the auction block.
PopeBenedict16.com, for instance, is for sale on the domain auction site
Sedo. eBay, meanwhile, shows welcomepope.com offered for $525 and
wehaveapope.com for $150.

Netcraft's take, however, is that a resale to the Vatican -- which has its own
.va top-level domain -- has "almost no chance," and papal fan sites along
the lines of popejohnpaul.com don't have the cash. "Such domains might
have the highest financial value to parties likely to use the name for
decidedly unapproved uses, such as porn sites," said Netcraft. "[They]
routinely purchase G-rated domains -- including whitehouse.com and domains
used by Christian sites -- for use as traffic gateways."

As of mid-day Tuesday, news reports from Rome said that Cardinal Joseph
Ratzinger had been chosen Pope, and will take the name Benedict XVI, one
of the names Cadenhead purchased in his six-name papal domain gamble.
(c) 2005 CMP Media Inc.

[yoopers]

Originally posted by JJuggle
More news from the Papal Front:

'Pope-squatters' Hope To Cash In On Papal Domains

Yeah, I lost out too with my poperaphael.com site.

[UniBrier]

What I want to know is whether the selection of the pope has anything to do with the Pope's Nose.

Besides the poultry reference to the Pope's Nose, there are at least two peaks (Colorado and New Zealand) named the Pope's Nose.

With that vow of secrecy we may never know...

[Brian MacKenzie]

Originally posted by UniBrier


With that vow of secrecy we may never know...

Well, someone nose

[JJuggle]

I figured that there would be betting on who would be named pope. Here's some of the news (http://www.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=pope+bookmakers&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d) on the subject. Bruce, you could have saved yourself a lot of grief; I wasn't in the running according to the odds makers.

[ricmbenson]

He is the right man for the job. He is an awesomely holy person. I like the fact that he is traditional. He is the person that God wanted as pope, thus he is absolutely the right person to be pope.

[Tim]

Originally posted by kristine
yeah, well I just cant see it being something thats a once in a life time thing.

I mean, I'm 19 and JP 2 died...
next guy is 78 now, so say, 10 years max (he;ll out live his life span then...)

So, he shoudl be (talking life spans) passed away by the time I'm 20.

They get a new pope. Say, he 50 at the youngest...
I'll be 29. Chances are he'll die before me.

I dunno-it doesnt seem too rare to me thinking of it like that. hey me too.

the pope was just a man. They cathos make him out to be on the same level as Jesus. So wrong they are.

[GILD]

Originally posted by ricmbenson
He is the right man for the job. He is an awesomely holy person. I like the fact that he is traditional. He is the person that God wanted as pope, thus he is absolutely the right person to be pope. yeah, another infallible... (http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_139.html)

[ricmbenson]

he is only infalliable at certain times when speaking of faith and morals, there are things that have to be met such as him saying that it is infaliable. We got a promise form heaven about that just look it up in Matthew.

"Blesses are you Simon son of Jonah, for flesh and blood have not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. So I say to you, you are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it...."

it goes on to say that Peter has the keys to the kingdom of heaven. we got the guarentee, and it has moved on throughout the ages and is with the pope.

[UNIquelyCanadian]

Originally posted by ricmbenson
he is only infalliable at certain times when speaking of faith and morals, there are things that have to be met such as him saying that it is infaliable. We got a promise form heaven about that just look it up in Matthew.

"Blesses are you Simon son of Jonah, for flesh and blood have not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. So I say to you, you are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it...."

it goes on to say that Peter has the keys to the kingdom of heaven. we got the guarentee, and it has moved on throughout the ages and is with the pope.

If you look up the Greek you will learn something interesting: That Peter means: Petros = pebble
While the rock the church is built on is Petra = Jesus.

The church is not built on Peter who is called a pebble, but is build on Jesus Petra (the rock).

I don't have time now to try to explain it better, sorry.

[ricmbenson]

It is built on Jesus, and also Peter, Peter=Pope, the human head of the Church. Although the Church is sinless because the head is Jesus and the Soul is the Holy Spirit, the people have sinned, but that is what Jesus said, look it up. He gave Peter authority, even though he wasn't perfect, but the Father will tell him/the pope some things about morals and faith, and they will know when.

[PopeSamXVI]

Originally posted by ricmbenson
He is the right man for the job. He is an awesomely holy person. I like the fact that he is traditional. He is the person that God wanted as pope, thus he is absolutely the right person to be pope.

So Pope Stephen VI, who killed his predecessor, waited a while, had the body exhumed, put on trial, found guilty, and removed three fingers from the decaying hand was who God wanted in the late 800s?

[GILD]

Originally posted by PopeSamXVI
So Pope Stephen VI, who killed his predecessor, waited a while, had the body exhumed, put on trial, found guilty, and removed three fingers from the decaying hand was who God wanted in the late 800s? i can feel it coming on...
any minute now...
someone's going to say 'but god works in mysterious ways'
just wait for it...
Originally posted by ricmbenson
We got a promise form heaven about that just look it up in Matthew but this bible u keep quoting from was written by humans
and then even later, other humans (with other political expediencies) came along and picked which if these writings should be in the book
and now...

whatever

do what thou will and harm none

[Magic 8 Ball]

Originally posted by harper
My lack of vote was wasted?
As I see it, yes.

[JJuggle]

Originally posted by PopeSamXVI
So Pope Stephen VI, who killed his predecessor, waited a while, had the body exhumed, put on trial, found guilty, and removed three fingers from the decaying hand was who God wanted in the late 800s? You make that all sound like it's a bad thing.

[PopeSamXVI]

You're right, it did provide an amusing anecdote.

[napalm]

i found it a little dissapointing that such a conservative was chosen. With 2/3rds of the church base in Africa and south America i thought it would have been more appropriate to choose someone who could suit the needs of the church in the poorer countries of the world who are facing the problems of AIDS, religious divisions and wars.
i'm not religious but i have concern for those who are, and live in the third world and are expected to live under the rule/guidance of a hardline pope.
Mark

[DK]

Originally posted by napalm
i found it a little dissapointing that such a conservative was chosen. With 2/3rds of the church base in Africa and south America i thought it would have been more appropriate to choose someone who could suit the needs of the church in the poorer countries of the world who are facing the problems of AIDS, religious divisions and wars.
i'm not religious but i have concern for those who are, and live in the third world and are expected to live under the rule/guidance of a hardline pope.
Mark
Amen Brotha!

[GILD]

Originally posted by JJuggle
You make that all sound like it's a bad thing. haven't heard that in ages...

[ricmbenson]

choosing a hardline pope is a very good thing, he will uphold Catholic doctrine. He will do exactly what the job description is, not slack in the morals; that is why the youth is so excited about him; he is not going to let them do terrible things

[munipsycho]

New Pope!! What new Pope?

[UniBrier]

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