How many people homeschool(ed)? [Archive]

forrestunifreak

2005-01-31, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by DK
and, being steriotypical , most homescholled kids are weird.

But what i want to know is WHY are you homeschooled?

Yeah,ill give you that one.most homeshooled kids are weird.downright dorky,really.My best freind is homeschooled,but he used to be public schooled until this year.anyway,for instince,we get to go skiing with other homeschoolers at a group discount,and their all dorks.nerdy.Geeks.(except us).

Why we homeschool,for one,we dont have to sit in school for 6 hours a day,(or whatever it is,)and we learn the same stuff faster.and you can work at your own pace,learning what you need to learn,not what they decide to teach you.Like,Im ahead of myself.or somthing.

and,its cheaper.

Not only that,for me anyway,i live sorta in the country,school is 15 miles away.(but,everything else is too).

I have freinds in public school,i just dont get to see them as much.

s7ev0

2005-01-31, 10:40 PM

So do the educational authorities want to know how you are being educated and check standards or anything? Or are you left to your own devices?

Do you plan to take state exams (those set and recognised around the States) or have other plans for the future.

I ask as I am a teacher and dad who is very interested in homeschooling and schools such as AS Neill's Summerhill in the UK.

The huge drawback in the UK education system at the moment is the straightjacket of the National Curriculum that tries to force all the round peg kids into square holes.

*puts soap box away*:rolleyes:

total uni

2005-01-31, 10:44 PM

actually, i nonschool. in nonschooling you learn the skills needed in life by doing them when you need them and in the real world not in a classroom.

also i havnt run into many weird homeschoolers/nonschoolers, most of what i see is schoolers doing drugs and getting wasted all the time wich to me is really sad, also most of them are dumb founded by what designs and shit me and my friend make.

(i just know this is going to turn into a flame war)

total uni

2005-01-31, 10:46 PM

my goal is to take this test(i forgot the name) but you can end high school at 16 and you dont need to do SATs for collage.

Catboy

2005-02-01, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by total uni
actually, i nonschool. in nonschooling you learn the skills needed in life by doing them when you need them and in the real world not in a classroom.

most of what i see is schoolers doing drugs and getting wasted all the time wich to me is really sad,

Why are you sad, getting wasted and doing drugs is one of the most important life skills one can have!:p

Just kidding...

muniracer

2005-02-01, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by total uni
in nonschooling you learn the skills needed in life by doing them when you need them and in the real world not in a classroom.

in the educational system, one stops learning "skills needed in life" by the time one gets into middle school (age 10, 11). after that, one is supplied with a well-rounded, generalized knowledge. the popularity of a liberal-arts education is the cause of this. even though i doubt that i will use math or science in the career i choose, i have benefited greatly by the foundation in those subjects. school attempts to implant into children's minds a yearning for knowledge and the foundation necessary to study on one's own.

some people learn better under the current school system, some under specialized school systems, and some under homeschooling (or nonschooling). i greatly appreciate my primary schooling and think that it was probably the best method for me to learn. i doubt that more than one or two people on this forum are qualified to actually make noteworthy comments on this subject, and i cant see this thread going anywhere.

James_Potter

2005-02-01, 12:36 AM

I think one of the most important things you need to know in the 'real world' is how to interact with other people. and being homeschooled, one generally doesn't get that much experience socializing.

that's the only thing /I/ get out of school, anyhoo.

Unitik908

2005-02-01, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by James_Potter
I think one of the most important things you need to know in the 'real world' is how to interact with other people. and being homeschooled, one generally doesn't get that much experience socializing.

that's the only thing /I/ get out of school, anyhoo.

Couldn't have said it more beautifully myself...

POW

Catboy

2005-02-01, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by Unitik908
Couldn't have said it more beautifully myself...

POW

Same here, homeschool kids 90% of the time are weird... just take total uni for example, total weirdo lame is more like it.

Seriously, all kids should got to real school until highschool at least, and even through high-school, just to learn to be less weird and less a pain in the nut's... I know alotof people, myself included, that do some classes online, one of my best friends only takes 2 classes at school and the rest online.

spyder

2005-02-01, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by total uni
...and you dont need to do SATs for collage.
'nuff said.

James_Potter

2005-02-01, 01:09 AM

I took the SAT's in ninth grade, just for kicks, and scored high enough to get into college. when I take it f'reel, I'll probably get like sooper dooper scores....
so, yeah.

Catboy

2005-02-01, 01:18 AM

I took the PSAT's last year, and did better than most of the juniors and sophomores I knew. I took it again this year, and the same result. Too bad if I do go to college(if I can't get into a good dance company within a year or so) I will be going into for dance, and last time I checked(like a month ago) 100% of the colleges I would even think to applying to don't ask for SAT scores to be accepted for dance, let alone a GPA. I do well at school just to keep my parents happy and so I can do stuff. Not so some college says "Hey look! A kid with a 4.0! Let's smother him with bacon." Like that would ever happen... and not that I have a 4.0.

Man, I am really blabbing on here.

Evan, go to real school. I think it will do you worlds of good and give you some of the social skills you obviously need .

Juggling_Arcs

2005-02-01, 01:22 AM

I am home schooled.

Juggling__Arcs

Fuego

2005-02-01, 01:24 AM

I was homeschooled till like 8th grade. Ya, I was/am weird, but is it right to be calling people weird on a UNICYCLE forum? as for socializing- if there were more ppl who homeschooled, the socializing problem would be eliminated. also, school presents quite a few odd social enironments, what with ppl being more or less segregated by grade until high school (then less so, but it's still there.) As an unschooled kid living in a university faculty/student housing(my dad was getting his phd.), I at age maybe 8, was a leader of what could be called a gang of people up to age maybe 13 or so. social problems? I almost never socialize, let alone lead, people who are 5 years older than me (which would be 21). there's a differance now that I'm older, but you get my point.

As for education- I did unschooling. there was nothing really actively taught anything, but I played all day, made huge sand thingies at the park in our apartment complex (which was the coolest place in the world.), played legos a bunch, and read. When I went to school in 5th grade, I was smarter than the curriculum, decided it was dumb, and left. I'm a elementary school dropout :) . I went back to school in eigth grade, becuase living in a small town I didn't get as much opportunity to socialize as in the apartment complex, so I needed people. That worked out grandly, and without ever memorizing the multiplication tables, or anything in math, I am not in some crazy senior math classes. I'm not as good at school as most of the 4.0 gpa ppl, but I in my weird mind think I understand more than them.

there's MY life story. jeez, that was long. ah well.

Link to apartment complex because I just found it and it's cool-
http://hds.ucsd.edu/hsgaffil/mesa.html

there's a link to a map at the top sortof. if anyone cares.

jsm

2005-02-01, 01:32 AM

Yo! I is gone done been homskuled mosta mah liefe. Fornatly mah IngIsh is z'till gud.
Seriously though, it's good being home-schooled for the most part. You don't have as many friends, but getting all the questions right on the SAT verbal section is kind of cool.
My brother actually scored 1590, even better than me, so homeschooling must work when it's done right. Another advantage is that you're not peer dependent. Because of that, I was able to go ahead and learn freestyle, rather than submitting to peer pressure from this forum and doing trials.
Total Uni is what I call a type 2 homeschooler; he loves attention, is kind of wild, and irritates people all over the place. He is a typical unschooler. A type 1 homeshooler such as myself is usually not out for attention, is rather shy, and is better at talking with adults than with people his own age.

Fuego

2005-02-01, 01:43 AM

can i be a type 1.5?

I'm wild/weird, at least I think so, and I unicycle...

but ya, adult ppls are cool to talk to.

total uni

2005-02-01, 02:50 AM

i woulnt call siting in a class room for hours at a time,"socializing".

homeschoolers(or at least the ones i have seen) get out and go places, meet people, talk with people.

most schoolers i know are way to scared to ask for a fucking bag at the market.

2005-02-01, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by jsm
Yo! I is gone done been homskuled mosta mah liefe. Fornatly mah IngIsh is z'till gud.
Seriously though, it's good being home-schooled for the most part. You don't have as many friends, but getting all the questions right on the SAT verbal section is kind of cool.
My brother actually scored 1590, even better than me, so homeschooling must work when it's done right. Another advantage is that you're not peer dependent. Because of that, I was able to go ahead and learn freestyle, rather than submitting to peer pressure from this forum and doing trials.
Total Uni is what I call a type 2 homeschooler; he loves attention, is kind of wild, and irritates people all over the place. He is a typical unschooler. A type 1 homeshooler such as myself is usually not out for attention, is rather shy, and is better at talking with adults than with people his own age.
type one is the kind that pisses me off.... Public skool has its disadvantages, but i think in at least elementry age, you need to go to public. That is when you learn to cope with other people, learn to share, and learn everybody isn't mommy's little boy. homeschoolers are the ones who sit round sniffin glue cuase they don't have anything better to do and have no friends and think it will make mommy dearest mad. now that is rebellion... or not.

Fuego

2005-02-01, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by DK
type one is the kind that pisses me off.... Public skool has its disadvantages, but i think in at least elementry age, you need to go to public. That is when you learn to cope with other people, learn to share, and learn everybody isn't mommy's little boy. homeschoolers are the ones who sit round sniffin glue cuase they don't have anything better to do and have no friends and think it will make mommy dearest mad. now that is rebellion... or not.

read my post. maybe i'm not a "type one home schooler", but that's kinda odd thinking. I learned to share. I'm a nice guy, I'm by no means mommy's little boy, and I sure as hell am not gonna sniff glue for a living.

caw89

2005-02-01, 03:16 AM

I started homeschool when i was goin into 8th grade. Its sweet, I work less than an hour a day and im over 2 yr ahead. Im gonna graduate at 15. Im already done with the real work and now im doin all the electives, plus this way I dont have to spend half my day in school to come home to do home work. Out here if you miss school they fine you, unless you have a doctors note, they charge you for the bus, and they fine you a bundle if you get in a fight, well i just cant afford to go to regular school.
:D
Plus i can spend the day doin whatever, dirt bike, unicycle, you name it. I didnt leave cause i got picked on was wierd or cause I got in to much trouble, I did cause I live in the desert and the bus stop is about 3-5 miles away. I dont have near as many friends now and im not some loner either, cause there was a lot more wierd loners in pub school then i've noticed in home schooling, although its a charter school in which most kids use for homeschoolin.. I can also graduate hella early and get a job, car....move out maybe.Ohhh, and I have.....Straight A+, because if I want i can redo anything before I turn it in. Bojigada!

Edit: And I Passed that Ridiculous High school exit exam and those other tests, aced 'em all.

vanman2004

2005-02-01, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by forrestunifreak
Yeah,ill give you that one.most homeshooled kids are weird.downright dorky,really.My best freind is homeschooled,but he used to be public schooled until this year.anyway,for instince,we get to go skiing with other homeschoolers at a group discount,and their all dorks.nerdy.Geeks.(except us).

Why we homeschool,for one,we dont have to sit in school for 6 hours a day,(or whatever it is,)and we learn the same stuff faster.and you can work at your own pace,learning what you need to learn,not what they decide to teach you.Like,Im ahead of myself.or somthing.

and,its cheaper.

Not only that,for me anyway,i live sorta in the country,school is 15 miles away.(but,everything else is too).

I have freinds in public school,i just dont get to see them as much.

Unfortunately, you don't learn grammar or punctuation...

vanman2004

2005-02-01, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by total uni
my goal is to take this test(i forgot the name) but you can end high school at 16 and you dont need to do SATs for collage.

To get into college you need to be able to spell it.

vanman2004

2005-02-01, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by James_Potter
I took the SAT's in ninth grade, just for kicks, and scored high enough to get into college. when I take it f'reel, I'll probably get like sooper dooper scores....
so, yeah.

You can get into college with really shitty scores... the question is, WHICH college?

Fuego

2005-02-01, 03:30 AM

wow, turboposting in a thread like this? huh. well, you go do what you want.

anyone read my epic post?

vanman2004

2005-02-01, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by Fuego
can i be a type 1.5?

I'm wild/weird, at least I think so, and I unicycle...

but ya, adult ppls are cool to talk to.

And I'm sure adults love talking to a teenager who says "ppls".

dogbowl

2005-02-01, 05:29 AM

This whole thing about homeschool seems pretty new. When I was a kid, I'm not sure it even existed.

If I think of how I looked at things back then, I would still have preferred to go to the noisy overpopulated violent hell hole that do remember my high school (and jr. high school) as being, and for one simple reason that can be summed up with one word:

GIRLS!

So many girls, everywhere! What more can any young man between the ages of 12-18 hope for, but to be in a crowded classroom filled with girls. The possibilities (which in reality, of course, never really went anywhere back then) were endless.
Homeschool? Where is the fun in that if Lizzie with the pony tails is not sitting in front of me and Mary-Ellen the hot red head is not two seats away, I'm too nervous to talk to them and the teacher is wondering why I'm so spaced out? Let him sit between Lizzie and Mary-Ellen and see how long he can last without daydreaming....

I could tell you about the time I found myself actually HOPING for a nuclear war because once, a teacher asked me and Mary-Ellen to go down to the unused fall-out shelter to get some books stored down there, and as we walked down the stairs, I thought, wow, if a nuclear bomb were to obliterate everything upstairs, it would be just me and Mary-Ellen, I'd be the last guy on earth, she would like, HAVE to like me!....

Anyway, do you see my point? School has tons of hassles, but I do remember so many fine moments that made it worthwhile, all of them having to do with falling madly in love my female classmates. Well, I should add that it was unrequited love, but still, it was sweet.

Maybe home school has a lot of merits. I may be wrong--this is a different world now from when I was a kid--but I don't think you get the possibilities of random romance that you would find if you were FORCED to sit in a classroom...And anywhere there are people consentrated together, there is romance. It's inevitable, it's human, and it is so, so, so excellent!

(By the way, I never did get anywhere with Lizzie or Mary-Ellen--I always ended up with the geeky girls--which is normal considering what a geek I was myself. But in retrospect, the geeky girls were way cooler...)

dubmuni2004

2005-02-01, 06:02 AM

I was home schooled my freshman year in high school, because my girl friend made me loose all my friends, and ALOT of other stuff I dont wanna get into. I came back sophmore year because I didnt want to become a freak because I wasnt socializing with other people. Its the homeschool students who have been doing it for almost their entire academic career that are weird.

James_Potter

2005-02-01, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by total uni
i woulnt call siting in a class room for hours at a time,"socializing".

meee neither. fortunately, that's not what you do at school; that's what you should do at school. about half of each period is spent learning, the rest is spent talking, doing your homework WITH your friends, which includes interacting with them, obviously.

Catboy

2005-02-01, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by total uni
most schoolers i know are way to scared to ask for a fucking bag at the market.

At the rate your going kid, youll be the boy stocking that bag... for the rest of your life.

Denali

2005-02-01, 07:03 AM

Being forced to spend time in a classroom might not be "socializing" but it leads to it i.e. makes it easier. As long as home-schooled kids socialize with people(adults and kids their age), things should be fine. True about the girls though...

Catboy

2005-02-01, 07:11 AM

They are right. I would never be able to be pimpin' the way I do if I was a lame home-schooler. I wouldn't be able to get my mac on at all...

Tim

2005-02-01, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by vanman2004
Unfortunately, you don't learn grammar or punctuation... Ha, that should be four periods.... This is an internet messege board only lame peole use perfict spelling and grammer and punctuation FOOL.

And I'm sure adults love talking to a teenager who says "ppls".You dont say it ppls you type it, it sounds like people.

I've been homeschooled since the 3rd grade. I've been always able to socialize well and make friends well. I really dont know why some people are so against homeschooling. There should be rules about it though that's for sure. Pennsylvania is fairlly strict its set up so that a child has to do the same type of work as one would in public school. You have o record all the work you do in a day and have a person evaluate the work that was done for that year then the work is looked at by the local high school. Some states aren't as strict and kinda let what ever happen but I dont think thats right.

Some of my friends have been other kids from my church so that was a place that I got to interact with kids. There is also homeschool groups that I used to go to and I had some friends there too. Its like I'm sure that there are kids in public school that dont interact with there peers well and dont have many friends. I also went to a art class once a week and learned how to draw, paint, sculpt, silk screen, photograph/develop film and we learned about the artists too. It was great and I'm glad at all the things I have taken from that class.

I'm not to sure about this nonschooling thing so I'm going to leave it alone.

Haha so Trip you didnt think the thread was going to go much farther?

pdc

2005-02-01, 04:24 PM

My wife has homeschooled our 5 kids for over 10 years.

Trip was right, 98% of this string is uninformed or just written by DOPES.

johnfoss

2005-02-01, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by total uni
most of what i see is schoolers doing drugs and getting wasted all the time wich to me is really sad, The ones you don't see are the ones who are actually in the school when they're supposed to be.
also most of them are dumb founded by what designs and shit me and my friend make.So far you're not making a very good impression of homeschooled/nonschooled people.

Total, remember you're a little kid, posting in a room full of mostly bigger kids and adults. This would be a great place to learn some humility (look it up). If you are homeschooled, that is what you know. You are probably not very qualified to have an opinion about regular/public schools. The same goes for people who went to regular/public school and don't know much about homeschooling.

Homeschooling has many advantages, but also many disadvantages, when compared with more traditional classroom schooling. As with every form of education, the most important part of the process is the quality of teaching. Some parents are much better teachers than others, but then again so are some teachers.

I don't know the details, but I imagine it varies from state to state as to what the requirements are. How much monitoring, testing, or other outside input there is into a homeschooled student.

Certainly being able to make ones' own schedule (parentally, that is) is a huge advantage. And if the students are motivated, the amount of stuff that's taught "academically" at public schools can probably be covered in a fraction of the time with such a low student/teacher ratio. In this way homeschooling has huge advantages.

But true, it's important for home-schooled kids to learn to socialize as well. However, it's okay to be "different." By not going to a classroom school, kids have more opportunity to be themselves, and not to have to feel intimidated by the styles or trends of their classmates. This has both an up and a downside of course.

So just a reminder to judge the person, not their educational shell. A good education can be had, or screwed up, either way.
(i just know this is going to turn into a flame war) Clearly you want it to. Notice how everyone is resisting you. They are trying to be mature. Can you?

2005-02-01, 08:17 PM

im just noticing HOW many people who unicycle are homeschooled.... is there a connection?

maroastedpeanuts

2005-02-01, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by total uni
what i see is schoolers doing drugs and getting wasted all the time wich to me is really sad (i just know this is going to turn into a flame war)

Hate to break it to you dude, but getting twisted a good time. Shattering your innocence at a young age is a timeless and empowering experience, and a birth right…F*ck off as much as you can when you’re a kid…just don’t be TOO stupid about it (and die or end up in juvie)... Things are different when you’re an adult…

If home school works for you good….but my public school days were the best days of my life. Unaccountable recklessness!!! Being an adult rocks…but being a kids way better..

In the end it doesn’t matter. I f*cked off in grade school, JH and HS….and now I work in academia and pursuing and advanced degree (PhD)…its all about balance where it matters.

**the above statements are for entertainment purposes only and not to be taken seriously** ….(so no one yells at me for attempting to corrupt youth)

s7ev0

2005-02-01, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by DK
im just noticing HOW many people who unicycle are homeschooled.... is there a connection?

Been thinking that myself. Wonder what the proportion of homeschoolers to schoolers is on this forum compared to the non-unicycling world?

Is there a greater preponderance of homeschoolers amongst unicyclists?

Is it just that homeschoolers have enough spare time to learn? Or is it the way they learn that leads them to it?

jsm

2005-02-01, 10:32 PM

I think we're more original, more likely to try different things. We don't have to worry about the fact that no one else in our little peer clique does it, and that therefore it might not be considered "cool." We have a lot more individuality.

johnfoss

2005-02-01, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by s7ev0
Is it just that homeschoolers have enough spare time to learn? Or is it the way they learn that leads them to it? I'll bet one factor is the fact that unicycling is a good *individual* physical activity. It is popular among people who are not big socializers, or who don't have lots of people to hang around with. You can learn it and do it on your own, unlike many other sports.

Also the peer pressure thing jsm mentioned is probably a factor.

I can't say that being homeschooled makes you "more original" though. However it does perhaps make you more likely to think outside the box. But then again, homeschoolers grow up without a box, meaning without necessarily being surrounded by a group of people all trying to come up with their own ideas.

AllThingsUni

2005-02-01, 11:16 PM

i used to be homeschooled until 3rd grade. now im in 9th and im still not feeling public school/high school. in 10th grade im going to this college where there isnt as many kids and everyone is issued a personal laptop. i know its for me i learn at a faster rate. are homeschoolers geeks...yes. it happens.like it. live it. love it.

jon

Tim

2005-02-01, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by AllThingsUni
are homeschoolers geeks...yes. it happens.like it. live it. love it.Meh get rid of your steriotipical self. I can't say that I am not a geek honestly I'm not quite sure as some people say I'm awesome and some say I'm lame and a dork. Well its mostly my sisters and their friends sooo you know how sisters are.

If you dont then they tell their friends about every little thing you have done since you were 7 ish that was very dorky like and the such and don't tell them the age of when such an event happend making the friend think it was like last week.

I have friends that have been homeschooled all their life that are not geeks in the least.

For me the unicycle is different and I love to be different. I probably like to be different because I've never had the other kids tell me how to be and the styles. I think that if someone in school went to try unicycling and told someone they would be shunned in some situations. All the unicyclist I know in person go to or went to public school so I dont think that there really are as many as you think.

Its like girls that unicycle there are probably the same amout as guys but they wont go on the forums and post about it all day. Homeschoolers are probably prone to be on the internet more as they have more free time durring the day. I dont really think the amount of home schooled unicyclist is that high.