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JJuggle
2004-01-30, 12:42 PM
Last night the promo on NBC's local news ran a teaser about a woman who was electrocuted by an exposed wire in the snow on a New York street. The teaser ended with "Con ed takes the blame." A sad story, of course, but my mind immediately flashed to the Bob Dylan song "Joey" (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bobdylan/joey.html), a tribute to mobster Crazy Joe Gallo who, sometime in the 1970s, was shot while dining in Umberto's Clam House in Little Italy, and which has the line:

"Let's blow this place to kingdom come, let Con Edison take the blame"

I have to believe the copy writer also made the connection. After all there are so many possible ways to express that same idea

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ

BTW, my wife had the same reaction you're probably having right now, too.
Sofa
2004-01-30, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by JJuggle


BTW, my wife had the same reaction you're probably having right now, too.

Whew!
JJuggle
2004-01-30, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Sofa


Whew! Well, I'll bet Tom Blackwood appreciates this!

And anyways you're in your 20s and Canadian, so what the hell do you know?

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ
Sofa
2004-01-30, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by JJuggle
And anyways you're in your 20s and Canadian, so what the hell do you know?

Not a friggin thing :(
Sofa
2004-01-30, 02:34 PM
"Knock Knock Knockin' on Heaven's door" - Guns 'n' Roses
JJuggle
2004-01-30, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Sofa
"Knock Knock Knockin' on Heaven's door" - Guns 'n' Roses Funny you should mention that. I recently tried to rent Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070518/) and not only don't any of the video stores have it but none of the staff has heard of it.

Poop!

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ
Sofa
2004-01-30, 04:59 PM
I've seen that movie, but it's actually called 'Young Guns II'
JJuggle
2004-01-30, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Sofa
I've seen that movie, but it's actually called 'Young Guns II' Yeah, but you were about 15 at the time I'm guessing, so you can be forgiven.

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ
forget_your_life
2004-01-30, 06:03 PM
with the mention of ER and Average Joe,it looks like the bad TV shows have finally started to rot JJugs brain...

i'll stay on topic though,congratulations Bob for one of the worst movies of 2003

oh and i just got Weird All's new DVD,there is a killer Dylan spoof on there.its called BOB.
JJuggle
2004-01-30, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by forget_your_life
with the mention of ER and Average Joe,it looks like the bad TV shows have finally started to rot JJugs brain...For the record, I don't watch Average Joe. Just mentioned it. Context man, context.
i'll stay on topic though,congratulations Bob for one of the worst movies of 2003Are you talking about The Hunted (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0269347/) or Gods and Generals (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0269347/), or Masked and Anonymous (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319829/)? Didn't see any of them. I'm guessing you just plain don't like Dylan, though.

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ
GILD
2004-02-02, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by JJuggle
BTW, my wife had the same reaction you're probably having right now, too.

it's a lonely planet sometimes

i absolutely love the kind of experience u describe
when suddenly, out-of-the-blue, something like that comes up and just for a moment, it's as if all the cameras and anchors and final control facilities and broadcast equipment and aerials and tv sets dissapear and u, U, r connected to another human being u'll never meet, never see and if it wasn't for that one line of copy, might never have known existed
and then, i can't help myself, i think of the silent moment of joy that person experienced when they wrote that line
with a silent smile, not knowing if anyone would pick up on the ref
just knowing that it was a good line and had to be written
and just for the briefest of moments, the loneliness lifts
JJuggle
2004-02-02, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by GILD


it's a lonely planet sometimes

i absolutely love the kind of experience u describe
when suddenly, out-of-the-blue, something like that comes up and just for a moment, it's as if all the cameras and anchors and final control facilities and broadcast equipment and aerials and tv sets dissapear and u, U, r connected to another human being u'll never meet, never see and if it wasn't for that one line of copy, might never have known existed
and then, i can't help myself, i think of the silent moment of joy that person experienced when they wrote that line
with a silent smile, not knowing if anyone would pick up on the ref
just knowing that it was a good line and had to be written
and just for the briefest of moments, the loneliness lifts I knew there was a really good reason I liked you, Dave. Thanks for confirming it. :)

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ
tomblackwood
2004-02-02, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by JJuggle
Well, I'll bet Tom Blackwood appreciates this!
Right you are Raphael. That's one of my favorite Bob albums, even if I find myself occassionally wishing that "Joey" came in a "Reader's Digest condensed" version.

Saw Dave Matthews recently and one of the highpoints of the show was him dueting on "Oh Sister" with Emmylou Harris. The local Seattle Times critic completely missed the historical connection....
Murde Mental
2004-03-27, 02:50 AM
"the times they are a changing"?
are they?
JJuggle
2005-08-10, 07:04 PM
Here's an NPR bit (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4791067) about someone else who certainly would've made the same connection.
jagur
2005-08-10, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by JJuggle
Here's an NPR bit (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4791067) about someone else who certainly would've made the same connection. i heard that bit, the guy was freaking nut case.
HistoricalGoof
2005-08-11, 02:37 AM
Raphael, you've gotta see Masked and Anonymous! That movie is fantastic! As a big-time Dylan fan, I loved it, but I think non-fans could really appreciate it too...at least that's what I always like to think until non-fans just can't see it...regardless, it's a masterpiece. And speaking of Dylan's recent masterpieces...what about Chronicles Vol. 1? That is the best thing I've read that's been written in the past 50 years.

On an unrelated note, I just found out that Bob is going to be playing all over Europe this fall. Just so happens that I'm moving to Prague in a couple weeks and he'll be playing there November 7th. I feel so incredibly lucky that Bob and I both decided to skip out of the States for the cooler months. Seeing Bob in Prague and hopefully at least once more in Germany somewhere is going to be a whole new wonderful experience. Oh, I love seeing Dylan shows!
munipsycho
2005-08-12, 08:10 PM
Some of my favorite Dylan quotes come from Brownsville Girl, like

The only thing we knew about Henry Porter ws that his name wasn't Henry Porter.

and

Strange how people who suffer together have stronger connections than people who are most content.
I don't have any regrets, they can talk about me plenty when I'm gone.
You always said people don't do what they believe in, they just do what's most convenient, then they repent.
And I always said, "Hang on to me, baby, and let's hope that the roof stays on."
tomblackwood
2005-08-14, 06:09 AM
:)

Thanks for sharing Raphael...

:cool:
JJuggle
2011-08-05, 07:11 PM
And damn, on a similar vein...

This week's New Yorker has an article on Lucretius poem, "On the Nature of Things". Apparently it was lost for a number of century's only to be found in 1417 by one, Poggius Florentinus or Poggio the Florentine.

"By chance, a monk laboring in a scriptorium somewhere or other in the ninth century copied the poem before it moldered away. And, by chance, this copy escaped fire and flood and the teeth of time for some five hundred years until, one day in 1417, it came into the hands of a man who proudly called himself Poggius Florentinus, Poggio the Florentine." (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_greenblatt#ixzz1UBPAU6Ax)

Well, Frank Zappa fans and afficionados will know where I'm going with this. Jump several centuries to the 1975 album, One Size Fits All, with the song, "Florentine Pogen".

Well, I just love it when things make sense even if it takes 36 years to do so. What did Zappa read to inspire this song, I wonder? And if you don't know this album, introduce yourself. It is a treat.
GILD
2011-08-06, 04:40 AM
Talk about a blast from the past!
BillyTheMountain
2011-08-11, 12:51 AM
On an unrelated note, I just found out that Bob is going to be playing all over Europe this fall.

This is such an old thread, 2005, darn!
GILD
2011-08-15, 06:22 PM
I got one.

While watching the BBC's online footage of the World Pipe Band Champions (http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/worlds/2011/bands/field_marshal_montgomery/)hips, I noticed that the embedded player's volume goes to 11.

For that push, over the cliff.
JJuggle
2011-08-16, 12:55 AM
I got one.

While watching the BBC's online footage of the World Pipe Band Champions (http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/worlds/2011/bands/field_marshal_montgomery/)hips, I noticed that the embedded player's volume goes to 11.

For that push, over the cliff.

So it does. Cool!
johnfoss
2011-08-16, 02:10 AM
That was the message I put on my last anniversary card to Jacquie (11th), that "Ours goes to eleven." :)
maestro8
2011-08-16, 11:00 PM
What did Zappa read to inspire this song, I wonder? And if you don't know this album, introduce yourself. It is a treat.

What indeed.

Not just this song...

...but the gazillion albums he put out.

I have but a few dozen of his albums, and I feel I'm only scratching the surface.

One Size Fits All is in that collection. I will give it another listen.