Is Kris Holm a Hypocryte?

[John Foss]

> > I agree that most of the "Kris Holm" names gives you extra influence
> > for marketing and obviously for products as well, and that
> is great.
> > I'm not really sure why any Unicyclists are concerned with
> this anyway.

The original post was just asking if the KH unicycle you can buy is the same
as what Kris is currently riding.

> My only question is, why haven't we seen the John Foss model
> unicycles, and when will the John Drummond series come out? :-)

Someday, someday. I've thought about it, and like Kris, I whatever unicycle
gets my name on it should be something I actually ride. But the decision to
put my name on one might involve more than that, and if it's a good cycle,
technically that's all that should matter. I should ride it nevertheless,
but I may ride other ones as well.

The reason Kris has the most marketable name in unicycling is that he's the
only one of us who is known *outside* the unicycling community. Therein lies
the real power to grow the sport!

Stay on top,
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
jfoss@unicycling.com
www.unicycling.com (http://www.unicycling.com/)

"You're not supposed to wash your Roach armor" - Nathan Hoover, on safety
equipment cleaning methods

[John Foss]

> > I agree that most of the "Kris Holm" names gives you extra influence
> > for marketing and obviously for products as well, and that
> is great.
> > I'm not really sure why any Unicyclists are concerned with
> this anyway.

The original post was just asking if the KH unicycle you can buy is the same
as what Kris is currently riding.

> My only question is, why haven't we seen the John Foss model
> unicycles, and when will the John Drummond series come out? :-)

Someday, someday. I've thought about it, and like Kris, I whatever unicycle
gets my name on it should be something I actually ride. But the decision to
put my name on one might involve more than that, and if it's a good cycle,
technically that's all that should matter. I should ride it nevertheless,
but I may ride other ones as well.

The reason Kris has the most marketable name in unicycling is that he's the
only one of us who is known *outside* the unicycling community. Therein lies
the real power to grow the sport!

Stay on top,
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
jfoss@unicycling.com
www.unicycling.com (http://www.unicycling.com/)

"You're not supposed to wash your Roach armor" - Nathan Hoover, on safety
equipment cleaning methods

[John Foss]

> Oh yeah? There are some people outside the unicycling community that
> know me :-)

Would it influence their choice of a unicycle purchase? We may have
something here... :-)

JF

[John Foss]

> Oh yeah? There are some people outside the unicycling community that
> know me :-)

Would it influence their choice of a unicycle purchase? We may have
something here... :-)

JF

[John Foss]

> Oh yeah? There are some people outside the unicycling community that
> know me :-)

Would it influence their choice of a unicycle purchase? We may have
something here... :-)

JF

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Muniac
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Member # 1
posted November 12, 2001 04:53 PM
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I've ridden with the Roach pads for about two years now and through the 12 or so knee downs I've had the protection has generally been good. To date my Roach pads have reduced the severity of all my knee injuries to a minor cuts and bruises. Never anything that didn't allow me to ride the next day. That all changed, however, on our most recent group ride this past Sunday (11/11/01) that I'm calling Bloody Sunday.
About 3/4 of the way into a routine descent on a rocky trail I found myself laying in the rocks with pain in my right knee and shoulder. I hobbled to a rock to sit a spell, let the stars clear out of my eyes and inspect my knee. When I pulled back the knee portion of the Roach pad I noticed the interior lining had split as did the skin over my knee cap clear to the bone. Jeannie was kind enough to donate a large band aid she was wearing and Dave came up with a clean tube sock. I dressed the wound enough to stabilize it for the 1.5 mile hike out to the car. Pictures of the field dressing and injury appear below:



It's obvious from the pictures I hit hard and that the Roach pads probably prevented me from shattering my knee cap. I don't think I cracked anything and am confident I will heal completely leaving only a scar as a reminder. After inspecting the pads I noticed the armour to be quite thin and flexible. I'd rate these pads "not acceptable" for riding in terrain where you might hit a sharp pointed rock. Such an impact creates a localized point of force strong enough to penetrate the pads and do significant damage to the knee as seen in the photos. The Roach design offers protection against collisions with low crown rocks or smooth surfaces. For those of you riding in extremely rocky terrain (as we do often) with many pointed rocks may want to consider different knee protection. Presently I'm looking into contoured plastic pads (knee & shin) which I think will distribute the force of a point impact over a greater area of the knee reducing the tendency for a puncture wound. Kind of like a bicycle helmet does for the head. The cloth material that Roach uses also tends to grip, pull and tear which can increase damage. A plastic material (like wrist guards for example) would skid or deflect which I'm thinking is better. We'll see. Once I select a product and use it for a while I'll post a review for others to read. I'm out of the mix for a little while. Later.


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john_childs
Member
Member # 16
posted November 13, 2001 03:27 AM
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Ouch!
Have you thought about trying the Core Rat leg armor with their optional calf add-on? I have not seen them or tried them. But they look like they might be OK for muni. However, if you tend to rub the inside of your knee or upper calf on the tire or on the frame, they might not be as good as the Roach.
If anyone has tried the Core Rat armor I'd be interested in seeing a review.

http://www.corerat.com/

When my Roach gear starts to have seams and threads come undone in the knee area I take them to a local shoe repair shop. They have a sewing machine that can sew right through the thick fabric. Quick and effective repair. And much faster than sending them back to Roach.

I have had some hard hits on the knee while wearing the Roach gear and have not ended up with anything more than a superficial scrape on the knee. But I can see how if a rock hit in the a gap between the plastic strips that you could cut the knee. Or if the edge of one of the plastic strips managed to get shoved in to the knee that it could give you a cut like you have.

I hope I can get that picture of your knee out of my head so I don't get too timid on my next ride. Get well and heal fast.

john_childs


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Neil
Member
Member # 12
posted November 13, 2001 04:43 AM
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Ouch Scott! That looks none to pleasant. I'll wish you a speedy recovery.
Were these the dual slalom pads with the softer knee or the full downhillwiththe same protection on the knee as the shins?

All the best,
Neil


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Oli
Member
Member # 2
posted November 13, 2001 09:48 AM
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Uh wow - I hope that didnt hurt too bad, man
Actually in my brief uni life (just over a full year of riding last week !), I had one bad fall, discovering my monty last spring. I was hopping on big flat boulder in a Montreal parc, I missed and my right knee went directly crash on a rocky edge, unfortunetaly a pretty sharp one.

Result : the roach knee pad 'exploded' locally (one plastic sheet is still hanging out today) but I didnt get seriously hurt.

I love my roach pads, but yes, as said Scott, for potential wipe outs over pointy, sharp rocks, I'd swtich to hard shell pads.


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Muniac
Administrator
Member # 1
posted November 13, 2001 09:55 AM
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The Roach pads I have are full down hill. Knee and shin areas have plastic panels sewn in. I thought at first that the rock slipped in between the battens but that didn't happen. The impact was pretty centered on the knee area. Thanks for the get well wishes. I'm a little pissed off at not being able to ride (just hate sitting around!) but I'll be back just as soon as I'm able. Perhaps this little injury story will help someone else avoid the same thing. Later.
[ November 13, 2001: Message edited by: Muniac ]


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Dylan Wallinger
Junior Member
Member # 19
posted November 13, 2001 09:39 PM
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Ouch! An injury very similar to that happened to me also! You could see the bone in two places; one on my knee, and another on my shin. I couldn't ride for quite some time and in the mean time I just took pictures of our rides!
Get Well...
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Keep Riding,
)--(x) Dylan Wallinger


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