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  • #16
    Definitely not fun, and wish you the best for your recovery.
    I'm headed back for a third surgery, this time to remove more (and hopefully all) of the metal they put in me in January for my broken leg. I got in some riding this year, but was really weak from sitting in a chair for several months. I recommend you get a stationary bike to keep your strength up, and you'll be good to go in the Spring.
    My 29er is my little wheel. Roll it, baby!

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    • #17
      Thanks! The road bike is already mounted on the trainer in the garage!

      Ironically, I may be riding the uni before a bike given my hand may be too sore to use handlebars. I see a lot of non-techincal fireroad muni in my future...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Namlak View Post
        Thanks! The road bike is already mounted on the trainer in the garage!

        Ironically, I may be riding the uni before a bike given my hand may be too sore to use handlebars. I see a lot of non-techincal fireroad muni in my future...
        Just build up a support out of 2x4's, threaded pipe, or heavy PVC, and put on a cheap cushy seat so you can sit upright. I'd offer to lend a hand if I were close to you (sorry, couldn't resist that one ).
        My 29er is my little wheel. Roll it, baby!

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        • #19
          Well, out of my cast for three days now and at the last visit the x-rays showed that the pieces had once again slid up on one another. Doesn't matter now as after 5.5 weeks things are too solid for any further repositioning. I estimate about 2mm of metacarpal shortening. The doctor doesn't expect long-term problems once things "learn" where they are at.

          But I've definitely got an uphill battle with the hand. My fingers and wrist are quite dysfunctional after being put in solitary for 5.5 weeks. I'm doing gentle stretching as advised and have a follow-up appointment in 4 weeks to check on range of motion and consider formal physical therapy. The fact that I type for a living is a good thing as it gives me lots of finger movement and retraining. Nearly 6 weeks in a cast tends to move one's finger alignment around, touch typing is already doable but sometimes a bit weird as the two (ring and pinky) that have been held motionless don't land quite on the keys like they used to but it's workable. Typing causes cramping feelings back in my atrophied forearm muscles but they feel better each day and I'm way ahead of typing ability vs when in the cast so work will be more bearable.

          There are a few interesting pains with certain movements that might be caused by soft-tissue damage that we've not been able to work out since the focus has been on getting the bone back together. Only time will tell if any of it means anything. There's no doubt that my hand bent a LOT if it was enough to break a bone and I'm sure everything in the area got flexed/sprained pretty good.

          I think handle bars are a long way off, still some under-the-skin bruising and palm sensitivity. At the 90 day mark, I'll be cleared for normal activity so I can start riding uni again, sticking to the road for a while but I live in some steep hills so I can handily keep my fitness up with that. I'll be on the road bike on the trainer for the next few weeks still - thank <insert favorite deity> for Netflix!
          Last edited by Namlak; 2012-11-18, 06:10 AM.

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          • #20
            hillbilly wristguards

            Sorry about the break. I have lost count of the number of times I have upd'd and landed on my hands/ palms. I attribute my lack of busted. Bones to my Hillbill gloves with their built in wrist guards.
            Torker 20, KH 24 (my baby), KH 29,

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            • #21
              Saw the doctor for my one-month-out-of-the-cast follow-up and all's well. He says my progress is actually better than average with regards to range of motion. I do have some lingering pain in my wrist and palm which is probably related to soft tissue damage done in the fall which making itself known as I add stress to the hand over time, but that should heal.

              I asked about physical therapy and he said he sees no reason at all that I need it. So we'll see how it goes as I ramp up the stress on the hand over the next couple months and hope everything goes smoothly. Everyday life, including typing (which I do for a living being a programmer) is going so well now that I forget about the hand entirely for hours at a time, if not most of the day.

              And I'm cleared to ride a bike! But I'll be sticking to the mountain bike on the road to minimize impact stress for a while yet. I don't want to risk uni riding because a fall to my hand could re-fracture it and even on the road, stuff happens on a uni sometimes. Full pre-break strength takes about six months and I'm just over two months since injury at this point.

              No radiation (x-rays), torture (traction), or power tools this time - what the heck am I paying these people for?
              Last edited by Namlak; 2012-12-13, 02:10 AM.

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              • #22
                Glad your healing well Namlak. Just out of interest were you wearing any hand or wrist protection when you did the injury? I notice in your profile picture you seem to be wearing gloves but dont remember you mentioning if you had anything on at the time of the fall?

                Cheers

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                • #23
                  No wrist protection, just gloves. I'm not sure a wrist protector would have helped as the injury was sustained by my hand bending backwards, with most of the force under my knuckles. But there is a likely chance that at a certain bending point, a wrist guard might have hit the ground and taken some stress off my metacarpals and saved this one.

                  I'll be ordering up a set of guards when I'm ready to ride and risk a to-the-hands fall. If anything, to protect my wrist which was probably sprained and may be weaker ongoing as a result. I've sprained one of my ankles badly three times and know that once you stretch things out like that once, it's pretty much weakened forever. I wear hard, hinged ankle braces every time I muni.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Namlak View Post
                    No wrist protection, just gloves. I'm not sure a wrist protector would have helped as the injury was sustained by my hand bending backwards, with most of the force under my knuckles. But there is a likely chance that at a certain bending point, a wrist guard might have hit the ground and taken some stress off my metacarpals and saved this one.
                    Though the braces on a wrist guard help take the bending stress off your wrist as well as just providing direct protection - they transmit the force from your hand to your forearm. That results in your forearm moving more under impact and your hand moving less, thus decreasing the stress on your wrist. Certainly a good enough wrist brace would have saved you in those circumstances - the only question is how effective the braces people typically use are. Personally I always wear KH gloves with built in braces when riding tricky stuff (I have a malunion of the wrist I need to protect - even a small knock can cause me problems) the braces aren't all that stiff and probably wouldn't protect from a really bad impact, but they're a lot better than nothing.
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                    • #25
                      No wrist protection, just gloves. I'm not sure a wrist protector would have helped as the injury was sustained by my hand bending backwards, with most of the force under my knuckles. But there is a likely chance that at a certain bending point, a wrist guard might have hit the ground and taken some stress off my metacarpals and saved this one.
                      I'm not trying to be mean here, so please don't take it personal, but we both know you should have been wearing wrist guards, but you weren't wearing them because they are uncomfortable and most of the time unnecessary

                      When I mountain biked I averaged a ground fall every 30-90 days (15-45 rides). As a mountain unicyclists I average at least one ground fall every week (3-4 rides). So in terms of ground falls, I hit the ground at least five times more often on a muni than an mtb.

                      BUT, I have far, far, far more UPD's on a muni than an mtb, all of which could be ground falls, and when I do fall I tend to land harder and tend to land on my hands, whereas on an mtb I land on my shoulder, hip, or knee.

                      In all the years I have ridden BMX, road bikes, and MTB I never had a hand injury outside of a palm scrape. Since riding muni I have had six finger fractures and multiple wrist sprains. The only thing that has kept me from breaking my hands worse is wearing the Hillbillys.

                      A quality wrist guard does protect against hand and wrist fractures, esp the double sided guards like the long fingered Hillbilly. I no longer ride with a set on a day to day basis; now I'm using a lighter weight wrist protector because I'm falling less and riding easier stuff, but I keep a set of Hillbilly gloves in my bag and I always wear a set for tech stuff.

                      Get some Hillbillys and wear em', breaking your hands sucks!

                      Personally I always wear KH gloves with built in braces when riding tricky stuff
                      I like KH stuff, but the wrist guards do not provide enough protection.


                      And just so you don't think I am unsympathetic to your injuries:

                      Rib Fx, football
                      Rib Fx, skiing
                      Back Fx x 1, motorcyle
                      Wrist Fx/thumb Fx, skiing
                      Finger Fx, six fingers, five falls on muni
                      Jaw Fx, MVA
                      Ankle Fx, skiing
                      Foot Fx, motorcyle
                      Foot Fx, MVA
                      Foot Fx, martial arts
                      Foot Fx, rock climbing

                      And if you think your hand hurts now, wait till it gets cold
                      Last edited by Nurse Ben; 2012-12-13, 04:27 PM.
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                      • #26
                        I wear tripple 8 gloves (like the hill billys) Percussion leg armour and a helmet every ride. Apart from my own uni biting me with the pedals my leg armour has never earned its keep but I know the day I don't wear them is the day I will need them (they are required every 5 minutes doing trials ). My gloves have protected my palm and wrist many times and I would never ride without them or any other item of gear.

                        Another thing to think about is the added confidence you get from wearing protective gear, whilst you don't feel immortal you will have a go at more daring things. I think it one of the reason certain people are against bike helmets being mandatory on the road is because of an alleged the false sense of safety (which I don't buy into as most normal road riders are not there to push the limits just mindlessly ride to work or the shops).

                        Gloves and protective gear is good and to me and actually looks normal, when I see people on bikes riding offroad in a t shirt and shorts and no helmet etc I think they look out of place and ridiculous. If it wasn't for being on a MUni they would probably be mocking my Lycra Shorts

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Feisty View Post
                          I think it one of the reason certain people are against bike helmets being mandatory on the road is because of an alleged the false sense of safety (which I don't buy into as most normal road riders are not there to push the limits just mindlessly ride to work or the shops).
                          Regarding risk compensation and bicycle helmets in relation to road riding, the issue is more one of the risks drivers will take around cyclists - a study has shown that drivers will pass closer to a cyclist if he is wearing a helmet. Though if you were to consider the risks cyclists take, then there might be a greater tendency to do that dodgy filter, or to jump a red light when wearing a helmet - taking risks isn't just about gnarr.

                          Let's not turn this into another helmet debate though - I'm hoping my comment is neutral enough not to inspire further discussion.

                          Oh and personally I don't wear the level of protection you do - I very rarely wear leg protection for muni riding, and whilst I normally wear KH gloves I put on some nice warm ones instead for recent riding (that's when I did wear leg protection just to keep my lower legs warm!). If we're talking riding in general, then I often use no protective kit at all.
                          Last edited by aracer; 2012-12-13, 05:07 PM.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Namlak View Post
                            This is my first broken bone. I'm 43 years old.
                            I'm not 43 years yet, but so far I only break parts. It's because I don't see my body as a part, or need to have it wrecked to not think I'm wasting my life.
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                            • #29
                              I wear the helmet, KH leg guards and Hillbilly short gloves. I'm 62 and ..knock on wood..haven't broken anything yet. I haven't taken that many ground falls yet, but I did have one that would have scraped up a palm and another that would have hurt my wrist. It was a little sore even with the gloves. I would love to ride without all the gear, but I am programmed to wear it now. Like wearing my seat belt. Maybe I'll never have a serious fall, but I'd hate to get hurt because I didn't wear gear that could have helped.

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                              • #30
                                I'm not 43 years yet, but so far I only break parts. It's because I don't see my body as a part, or need to have it wrecked to not think I'm wasting my life.
                                No doubt, every injury you get will pain you much worse in the long run, so avoiding them to begin with is the best choice, just some of us take more risks and as a reulst accumulate more injuries.

                                I have slowed down, having far fewer "debilitating" injuries after age thirty, only one broke rib and a few broken fingers, some stitches, and some muscle tears, otherwise I'm as solid as a horse; one of them sway back horses they put out to pasture

                                But I went riding last night on my 36er with lights, and tomorrow I'm going for a big muni ride in Asheville or Chattanooga.

                                They will have to knock me out and tie me down before an injury will keep me from getting the goods
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