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  • Originally posted by UniDak View Post
    Here is the finished product. It is kind of slick so I think I'll wrap some grip tape around at some point.
    Very nice !

    Going all the way around would prove even stronger and totally ambidextrous (win-win ).
    Last edited by Siddhartha Valmont; 2016-02-22, 12:30 PM. Reason: page-dance
    => CrMo 29: KH XC rim, Nimbus CrMo hub, Spirit 110/137 & Schwalbe Big One
    => Flansberrium 26: Nextie rim, JumboJim 4.0, Spirit 127/150mm, M4O ISIS

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    • Originally posted by Eric aus Chemnitz View Post
      Do you use it with a brake?
      I must have been blind! Now I see your selfmade spooner on your brake lever. Looks really nice!
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      • Win-win-win

        Originally posted by Siddhartha Valmont View Post
        Very nice !

        Going all the way around would prove even stronger and totally ambidextrous (win-win ).
        Or win-win-lose. You'd lose the phallic design. Although for everybody except Eric aus Chemnitz that would be another win.

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        • Originally posted by Eric aus Chemnitz View Post
          Wow!
          I'll bet you'd find enough potential buyers to produce a whole batch!
          Do you use it with a brake?
          The method I used is suitable for making one or two but the time needed for plaster casting and vacuum forming would make them prohibitively expensive for batch production and sale.
          BUT I am working on another handle design which may be worth producing in batches.

          I'll make a post describing the how to easily do the home made spooner. I'll also make the material available by mail for a few bucks shipped if anyone wants it.

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          • My new handlebar






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            07.06.2020: Europamarathon

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            • Nice job!
              Will it allow you to do hops and rolling hops by holding the handlebars instead of the seat handle?
              Mine is set this way :


              But right now I'm trying to set it the same way as yours for the purpose I just said, but I have to remove the seat handle, cause if I don't I can't set the brake lever low enough.

              I wonder two things:
              -by removing the seat handle will it be solid enough to allow me to hop/rolling hop?
              -with a closer handlebar will I loose some of my ability to lean forward (and also to ride both hands on the bars while leaning forward) to gain speed when I'm in second gear?

              Waiting for your review of your first ride with this g27.5
              - Geared kh36 + Nightrider Lite + Kh Tbar + HS33
              - Qu-ax 36" + nightrider +Q-handle+ cable rim brake
              - kh 29" + knard 29x3+ kh Tbar + HS33
              - Qu-ax trial 19"
              -24"&26" wheels and forks and spare stuffs.

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              • Originally posted by UniDreamerFR View Post
                Will it allow you to do hops and rolling hops by holding the handlebars instead of the seat handle?
                I hope so. My hand position on the handles is the same as on the seat handle but some centimeters more to the front.

                Originally posted by UniDreamerFR View Post
                I wonder two things:
                -by removing the seat handle will it be solid enough to allow me to hop/rolling hop?
                I don't believe that the original seat handle adds any stability to this setup. You shall be fine removing it.

                Originally posted by UniDreamerFR View Post
                -with a closer handlebar will I loose some of my ability to lean forward (and also to ride both hands on the bars while leaning forward) to gain speed when I'm in second gear?
                Don't know how much you want to lean forwad. Time will show how good it works. If mine is too short, I can adjust it up to 7 cm.
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                • Very nice setups, Eric and Unidreamer!
                  I've made many versions of handles/handlebars and eventually settled on a "loop" design (insert short section between grips) which allows maximum variations of hand positions in all situations. On many occasions it has made the difference between staying aloft and lying on the ground.
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                  • @newob: good job! seams to be much comfortable.

                    @Eric: thanks for the reply.

                    I just finished and gave a try on my parking.

                    This is the before/after:


                    Freemounting was not a big deal even though it happened few times that I find myself looking for the missing seat handle, got used to this new setting very quick.
                    I even find it easier to freemount now! I hold both handles and this is it.
                    Before I used to hold the seat handle with my left hand and the handlebar with my right, now both are at the same level, so it's more symmetrical, and I feel it when I freemount. (I always do a few hops before pedaling)

                    I did few hops from a sidewalk and on the sidewalk, It seams to work pretty well.
                    Did few little rolling hops too (over nothing), sure, the beast is heavier than my 19er and I am not a good jumper on the little wheel, but the new setting doesn't seam to make it significantly harder than with the old one.

                    I successfully shifted and rode in 2nd gear, but my parking is too short to really give a good idea of how it will go in a real muni ride.
                    I don't remember if I tried to ride with both hands on the handlebars .

                    The nude seat is a bit uglier than with the seat handle, but... who cares?
                    - Geared kh36 + Nightrider Lite + Kh Tbar + HS33
                    - Qu-ax 36" + nightrider +Q-handle+ cable rim brake
                    - kh 29" + knard 29x3+ kh Tbar + HS33
                    - Qu-ax trial 19"
                    -24"&26" wheels and forks and spare stuffs.

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                    • Good! But the strongest, most stable setup is with the handlebar attached to the seatpost , not the seat (as jtrops recently said).

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                      • Originally posted by UniDreamerFR View Post
                        Will it allow you to do hops and rolling hops by holding the handlebars instead of the seat handle?
                        Hopping and mounting work fine
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                        • Eric, that looks like the Quax eleven seat -- how do you like it compared to KH/Nimbus?

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                          • Originally posted by newob View Post
                            Eric, that looks like the Quax eleven seat -- how do you like it compared to KH/Nimbus?
                            Yes it is. I didn't have much saddle time yet. Normally I ride a Nibus Gel. I bought a KH Freeride for this project first. But then last summer, I had a short testride on an eleven and instantly liked it. So I bought an Eleven. All riding I had on it yet, contained many dismounts as I'm learning to shift my Schlumpf. Untill now, it felt really comfortable, but I would not like to judge it until I did not ride any long tour with at least 2 h saddle time on it.
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                            07.06.2020: Europamarathon

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                            • Concerning my new setting (inspired by Eric's one, see the "After" Photo few posts above) I gave a longer test on a parc/forest (knard inflated at about 21 PSI) and its was pretty good, both for riding in high gear( with one or two hands on the handlebar) and for hops/rolling hops.

                              Nonetheless I suspect that your bar-ends, Eric, are set a bit too high for hoping with ease, I mean I had to set mine lower than yours in the first place to "feel" the good position that allows me to hop comfortably.
                              And when I passed from settings to tests it confirmed what I was expecting.
                              It's probably subjective though, the higher the handlebar is, the more arms are flexed while holding the unicycle during the hops, and it depends on how low your seat is set.
                              Last edited by UniDreamerFR; 2016-04-18, 07:52 AM.
                              - Geared kh36 + Nightrider Lite + Kh Tbar + HS33
                              - Qu-ax 36" + nightrider +Q-handle+ cable rim brake
                              - kh 29" + knard 29x3+ kh Tbar + HS33
                              - Qu-ax trial 19"
                              -24"&26" wheels and forks and spare stuffs.

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                              • There definitely is a downside in the fact of decreasing the distance between the handlebars and the saddle when you use a geared unicycle.

                                During my last urban ride with other unicyclists, I tried to get the handlebar even closer to the saddle than what you can see in my previous pic ( it was nearly touching the saddle) and if it was pretty good for hopping, riding in second gear was not as efficient as before because I wasn't able to accelerate as easily.

                                Then I set the handlebar a bit further and lower and my ability to accelerate after shifting in 2nd gear was back.
                                Hopping was still doable, I didn't find it more difficult to hop at least.

                                This is my last setting:


                                Yesterday I had a muni ride in the forest with this setting and that was pretty good, even though I still don't hop in my muni rides.

                                So as a conclusion:

                                -the further (and/or lower) you set the handlebar from the saddle, the easier you'll be able to accelerate and ride in second gear (probably because you can put more body weight in front of the unicycle) but you'll loose some of your ability to hop by holding the handlebars.

                                -the closer you set the handlebar from the saddle, the easier you can hop (but it's more difficult to accelerate in second gear and lest stable when you ride with both hands in the bars).
                                you have to find a compromise between those different settings.

                                With my angled T bar I couldn't set it both close and low, if I want to test that I have to use a straight T bar.
                                - Geared kh36 + Nightrider Lite + Kh Tbar + HS33
                                - Qu-ax 36" + nightrider +Q-handle+ cable rim brake
                                - kh 29" + knard 29x3+ kh Tbar + HS33
                                - Qu-ax trial 19"
                                -24"&26" wheels and forks and spare stuffs.

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