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    when idling....do you do a "half revolution" or do you just rock back and forth just enough to stay up?

  • #2
    Originally posted by scotty watty View Post
    when idling....do you do a "half revolution" or do you just rock back and forth just enough to stay up?

    Do whatever it takes. Do a google video search for "unicycle idling" for a bunch of ideas. Most seem to turn the wheel about 90°.

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    • #3
      Oh man, I have not even *thought* about trying to idle yet! Let me know how long it takes you to figure it out,
      Chief

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BHChieftain View Post
        Oh man, I have not even *thought* about trying to idle yet! Let me know how long it takes you to figure it out,
        Chief
        I haven’t got it after 2 years of riding....
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gockie View Post
          I haven’t got it after 2 years of riding....
          Just to be clear, for the sake of newbies reading on the forum: No amount of regular "riding" is going to prepare someone for idling. It is fundamentally different than regular riding. It may be possible that, the more experience someone has riding forward without practicing idling, the harder it may be for them to make the switch to idling. Of course, it's never too late to learn idling, but it may make you feel like a total beginner. If you learned to ride in the first place, you can learn idling!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by elpuebloUNIdo View Post
            Just to be clear, for the sake of newbies reading on the forum: No amount of regular "riding" is going to prepare someone for idling. It is fundamentally different than regular riding. It may be possible that, the more experience someone has riding forward without practicing idling, the harder it may be for them to make the switch to idling. Of course, it's never too late to learn idling, but it may make you feel like a total beginner. If you learned to ride in the first place, you can learn idling!
            I totally agree. I've been able to ride for about 60 years but just started working on idling about a year ago. Other then my legs being stronger then a total novice, learning to idle is a whole new ballgame. The key, just like learning to ride in the first place is persistence. You have to put in the time to succeed. I'm getting to the point I can ride some stop and idle 30 or 40 cycles and ride some more with either foot dominate. I still have more time to put in to be totally relaxed without waving my arms so much.

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            • #7
              Been riding over a year and can't idle and like everyone else has said regular riding will not teach you it. You have to specifically train to do it and I think I made ok progress one day but I didn't stick to it so I'd be bad at it now. Plus I hear it's easier to learn on smaller wheels and since I kept getting bigger wheels it's gone by the wayside.

              At best I can manage 2-3 rocks I have learnt some skills that assist in idling such as stalling/stop starting so I'm sure I can learn it. Now that I have a giraffe I really want to learn to idle.
              Last edited by Unigan; 2020-02-02, 08:03 AM.
              DRS 5'20" Giraffe || Nimbus II 24" || Nimbus Muni 29" || Kris Holm 36" Road

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              • #8
                As you get better at it, you can do a smaller idling stroke, but as you're learning the skill, imagine the bottom pedal swinging from about 4 to 8 on a clock face, maybe a slightly smaller arc than that.

                All the work is done with the bottom foot. Keep your head still and let the unicycle pendulum underneath you. It helps to fix your gaze on something in the middle distance. Keep your weight on the saddle.
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                • #9
                  This other thread that appeared at roughly the same time is also interesting and further demonstrates that not all the regulars here can Idle

                  http://unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122944

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mikefule View Post
                    All the work is done with the bottom foot.
                    That is not the way I learned. Quite the opposite, for me it felt like the forward and backward motion of the 12:00 foot was making the idle happen. John Foss has also described idling in terms of the bottom foot doing the work. That would certainly make transitioning to one-footed idling easier. I only learned to idle one-footed well with a foot on the crown, and I can only idle 5-6 times with one foot dangling in the air. Doing all the work with the bottom foot may be the proper technique, but it is not the only technique. I should practice focusing on doing it the way Mikefule mentioned, above. Because my command of that method is not developed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Unigan View Post
                      Been riding over a year and can't idle and like everyone else has said regular riding will not teach you it. You have to specifically train to do it and I think I made ok progress one day but I didn't stick to it so I'd be bad at it now. Plus I hear it's easier to learn on smaller wheels and since I kept getting bigger wheels it's gone by the wayside.
                      I would not worry about regressing because you did not work on it for awhile. On idling I stopped working on it for about 6 months and was at the same place when I started again. The mind/body seems to be very good about remembering things like that.

                      Just like riding a unicycle, once you learn to a point, you will always be at that point. I was a mediocre unicycle rider as a kid and after a 50 year break I was still a mediocre rider when I started riding again a couple years ago. No matter if the next day or 50 years later, it did not seem to make any difference.
                      Last edited by JimT; 2020-02-02, 05:29 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JimT View Post
                        I would not worry about regressing because you did not work on it for awhile. On idling I stopped working on it for about 6 months and was at the same place when I started again. The mind/body seems to be very good about remembering things like that.

                        Just like riding a unicycle, once you learn to a point, you will always be at that point. I was a mediocre unicycle rider as a kid and after a 50 year break I was still a mediocre rider when I started riding again a couple years ago. No matter if the next day or 50 years later, it did not seem to make any difference.
                        Took my 24" for a spin yesterday afternoon and did a little practice didn't do too much but stalling seemed harder then I remember. I'm chalking that up to the speed I'm riding at though. Ever since I've been riding the 36" it seems to have effected the speed I ride my 24/29" at now I seem to be riding them a lot faster then I remember and I wobble a lot due to that speed increase.

                        One thing I tried was reverse and I was pleasantly surprised that I managed to ride a few meters on my first go much better then I usually go last time I tried it. So I'm going to try and ride my 24/29" a bit more often and not just focus on the 36 exclusively.
                        DRS 5'20" Giraffe || Nimbus II 24" || Nimbus Muni 29" || Kris Holm 36" Road

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JimT View Post
                          Just like riding a unicycle, once you learn to a point, you will always be at that point.
                          I agree, with a couple exceptions:

                          One-footed riding: A couple years ago I could ride one-footed ~100 meters max. My command of it was pretty tenuous (I was barely able to turn, for example). I took a long break from it, and when I attempted it again, I could hardly do a single revolution.

                          Beginning stages of riding: As a beginner, it typically took me 30 minutes of riding to get back to the successes of the previous day.

                          Both of these exceptions have in common a lack of time spent on them. So, arguably, I regressed because I hadn't really learned in the first place.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BHChieftain View Post
                            Oh man, I have not even *thought* about trying to idle yet! Let me know how long it takes you to figure it out,
                            Chief
                            you have to ask yourself if it is really that important for you. I've been riding since 2015 and though I tried it a bit, I've never been in the situation where I needed to be able to idle. I just as easily dismount and mount, like at a traffic light. Most of the time I just ride and ride and ride. ^_^

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Setonix View Post
                              you have to ask yourself if it is really that important for you. I've been riding since 2015 and though I tried it a bit, I've never been in the situation where I needed to be able to idle. I just as easily dismount and mount, like at a traffic light. Most of the time I just ride and ride and ride. ^_^
                              I'm planning to learn idling at some point. I know we don't *need* to learn how to idle, but heck, we don't *need* to be riding unicycles in the first place!

                              But I think before that I'll work on hopping in place. Maybe also riding backwards.

                              Chief

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