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  • #16
    Originally posted by haqreu View Post
    On my 20" unicycle I am comfortable riding figures 8 seat in front, turns out that ultimate wheel is a completely different story.
    SIF could be a bridge to UW, but only if you can apply negligible force on the saddle with your hand. I was in a similar situation after learning SIB then thinking I could drop/drag the seat behind me; I never made it more than 2 revs. Now, I focus on steadying the frame/seat with my feet while holding the seat limply in one hand, allowing it to flop back and forth slightly. In this position, steadying the seat is extremely difficult. I would want to improve at this before attempting an UW.

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    • #17
      Yup, that makes sense. But personally I decided to use UW as a bridge to seatdrags

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      • #18
        btw, just a tip. The wheel comes with two white pedals, quite hard to determine right/left side. I swapped one orange pedal with my regular unicyle. Now I know that the white pedal should go to the bottom right for a start

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        • #19
          Originally posted by haqreu View Post
          btw, just a tip. The wheel comes with two white pedals, quite hard to determine right/left side. I swapped one orange pedal with my regular unicyle. Now I know that the white pedal should go to the bottom right for a start
          Clever idea, although I'd consider going a step further and swapping the pedals out completely for better ones, once you're confident.


          My current UW has the six spokes arranged a bit like a 6 armed swastika around a central hexagon. I just have to remember which way the "arms" f the swastika are pointing. That said, there are loads of ways to mark it with tape or paint.
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          • #20
            This is how I do it:Click image for larger version

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mikefule View Post
              I just have to remember which way the "arms" f the swastika are pointing.
              That is good when you do not have to pick the wheel from the ground literally every two seconds

              Personal log: 6 hours of training; I can land at least 10 revolutions 10 times in a row. From now on I am not worried, I know that the wheel is rideable with a bit of work. The hardest part was to learn how to do the first half of the revolution.

              Interesting thing: it really helps to ride the wheel in a wobbling style, I guess it offers lots of tactile feedback. If I happen to ride in a perfect balance, I feel like I lost the feedback and I inevitably fall in few revs.

              If anyone is still hesitating, the UW offers lots of fun. BTW, personally I do not feel like I need any protective gear besides long pants (jeans) and gloves. In 6 hours of learning I fell twice, gloves were sufficient.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by haqreu View Post

                If anyone is still hesitating, the UW offers lots of fun. BTW, personally I do not feel like I need any protective gear besides long pants (jeans) and gloves. In 6 hours of learning I fell twice, gloves were sufficient.
                I'm normally the sceptic when it comes to protection, but I've had more heavy falls per distance travelled on the UW than at any time when I was learning conventional unicycle.

                Also, rather than jeans, find something with a slippery/shiny surface. I have some lightweight jogging bottoms and they're far easier to ride in than jeans, even though they are lots thinner.

                If you ride in the wet and mud, more specialised leg protection such as KH leg armour is useful I might even say, necessary.

                Good ways to build up your distance riding:

                1) Set yourself some simple obstacle challenges, like riding down a gentle slope, or on some uneven ground.

                2) Set yourself a winding course around cones and try to do figures of 8 and similar.

                3) (Seriously) if you can play mouth organ, or sing, or whistle, try to play, sing, or whistle a tune or song correctly while riding. It takes the conscious mind away from the riding and leaves your brain to get on with it unsupervised.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by haqreu View Post
                  Interesting thing: it really helps to ride the wheel in a wobbling style, I guess it offers lots of tactile feedback. If I happen to ride in a perfect balance, I feel like I lost the feedback and I inevitably fall in few revs.
                  Interesting! Maybe practicing on the UW is better for learning the seat drag! Trying to learn the seat drag on the conventional unicycle requires almost perfect balance.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by elpuebloUNIdo View Post
                    Interesting! Maybe practicing on the UW is better for learning the seat drag! Trying to learn the seat drag on the conventional unicycle requires almost perfect balance.
                    I don't think it's about pure balance, rather it's about having iron control of your pedaling. This means keeping the wheel vertical while your feet are constantly moving. I identify this as the hard part for seat-draggy-type ultimate wheeling. Watching the (Expert) Freestylers at Unicon do it is a reminder that it's possible to do this forward, backward, while operating a prop with your hands, to switch from forward riding to backward and vice-versa and more. They make it look so easy!
                    Last edited by johnfoss; 2018-10-01, 05:34 AM.
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                    • #25
                      Funny new experience:
                      1. When I first took the UW, I had to interleave it with regular unicyle because it was so much painful and frustrating.

                      2. In few hours (dog years, I mean the UW time) I was able to spend all the training (~1.5 hours) session on the UW, yahoo!

                      3. And now I am able to ride 50 meters, and I have to interleave with normal unicycle again because it is so tiring for the legs!

                      I guess when you fall every two revolutions, actual time spent riding is very small compared to re-mounting time. Well, that is a new feeling and it is fun.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by haqreu View Post
                        I guess when you fall every two revolutions, actual time spent riding is very small compared to re-mounting time. Well, that is a new feeling and it is fun.
                        Remounting, when learning to freemount is much more tiring than actual riding. I suppose with a UW it is annoying, because you have to bend down every time to get a hold of the wheel again, where as with a uni, you can most of the time catch the seat in ur hands when you tumble off again.

                        I was wondering, on municycle.com in Germany they have a 24" and a 28" UW. Is learning on a smaller wheel easier? I reckon if you want to go somewhere with it and roll off-road (far far future), a bigger wheel is more pleasurable.

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                        • #27
                          Bigger wheels are easier to master, as they give more time for correcting.

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                          • #28
                            I noticed there are two ways the UW are made on the inside :

                            https://www.einradladen.com/Ultimate...Aluminium-Blue

                            and
                            http://funicycle.com/magasin/unicycl...tube9lglmoab33


                            Wouldn't the second one be annoying as your feet my slip in between the wheel and surely make you trip. The first one seems much more robust. The second one might also end up getting oval when too much force is applied.

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                            • #29
                              You are comparing a 20" vs a 28" UW. Construction depends on the size.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by kunstrasen View Post
                                You are comparing a 20" vs a 28" UW. Construction depends on the size.
                                Oh hadn't noticed the other one was only 20". Don't intend to get one so small anyways.

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