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    If picture took. I asked why the flatfish was a hit and why flat seats haven't always been around. The answer was handlebars. So I started thinking about bike seats and after experimenting a bit I ended up with this $14 gel seat. I'm staying planted due to the bars, it weighs less, and the stock Coker seat is just too much padding. So far, I'm really liking it. Anybody else using bike seats?

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    Jona, I'm with you on this, so I am planning to rig up a bar that comes off the seat post and braces to the front of the seat.

    What I find with the flat seats is that I sit on the waist of the seat, so the front and back of the seat is "wasted". What I want to do is look for a bike seat that has a wider padded snout/nose, then see if it can be "enough" support for uni.

    The biggie is a handle, gotta have something to hold onto. Coker makes one that might work, also looking at a custom build or something built off a stoke bar mount.
    Last edited by Nurse Ben; 2013-02-26, 03:08 PM.
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    • #3
      http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-S...item589cb83e0e

      It's difficult to find a bike seat that doesnt taper so much as to push you forward as you ride. This one is close to what I'm using.

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      • #4
        I agree ben, i end up seting in the middle, What about having just a smige of curveature.
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          http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Selle-It...item589cb83e0e

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          • #6
            The above seat weighs a claimed 305 grams and the stock Coker seat is quite a bit more. This might be my future for the road. Muni I don't see enough control. Too thin in front.

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            • #7
              I fooled around with bike seats a little; the ones I had lying around all wanted to me to slide forward toward, and off, the nose.

              The handlebar seems like a necessity, not just to get you into the proper sitting posture, but also so that you have something to push against, to counter that tendency to slide forward.

              If I were going to try it again, I would use one of the big freeride-type saddles, that have a long padded nose for standing riders to control the bike with. I wouldn't use a lightweight road saddle.

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              • #8
                Yes, a longer snout that's wide and well padded, tilted back, handlebar mandatory.

                I ride with my hand on my handle 99% of the time and use hand pressure and foot pressure for turning, so thigh pressure is less of an issue, esp when climbing.

                I haven't tried it yet, so who know if it'll work as well as the flattened seats I'm using now.

                By separating the handlebar/grab handle from the seat, this reduces the demand for a stiff saddle, so it can be lighter and smaller.

                Without a good bumper that rear of the bike seat is going to take a beating!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nurse Ben View Post
                  Yes, a longer snout that's wide and well padded, tilted back, handlebar mandatory.
                  Sounds like you folks are redesigning the unicycle seat.
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                  • #10
                    Just googled it, does it belong to anybody here?



                    Looks very interesting

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                    • #11
                      I did try some of the free ride seats years ago for distance riding with a handlebar and they were surprisingly uncomfortable. Turns out free riders spend very little time in the saddle. I tried an absolutely huge Azonic FR saddle and another brand that was flat and long-ish. I might as well have been sitting on a 2 x 4. . . . . bad enough that I laughed out loud on my first ride. . . .such an epic fail in my quest for a better seat.

                      That was 2008. Maybe there are some better FR saddle options now?

                      I still ride the modified KH freeride saddle I made back in 2008. Narrowed the front seat base and plastic welded the pie slice cut back together, Sliced the foam down in front and also cut the sides to drop the nose angle down by about half - and plastic welded those cuts back together. Now it looks like a less flat flatfish I guess. Its still my fav. saddle for distance with bars
                      Brycer1968,
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by UVcycle View Post
                        Just googled it, does it belong to anybody here?



                        Looks very interesting

                        Have fun,
                        UVcycle
                        I think that could be from Ken in Australia I think.

                        Its a shows some of the "saddle experimentation" that was going on on here in 2008 and 2009 in a couple of threads on here. I actually liked the way that my prototype 36er upper frames with rear set saddles felt and handled, though I ended up building a final version with a lot less relocation (like 5 inches or so). I must have tried 4-5 different configurations to find comfort, strength and adjustability for aero bar 36ers that you can ride with elbows in the aero bar elbow cups.

                        Bryce
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                        • #13
                          The long thin road saddle might not be the best, but it is so much better than the stock Coker seat it's amazing. I do most of my riding wearing denim, pants or shorts. My inner thighs rubbing the seat was using energy and wearing out pants. With the bike seat my legs no longer touch the seat at all.
                          This is my first experience with a gel seat, and I expected it to be softer to the touch. It feels quite firm, but molds to my butt in a couple of minutes. Don't know if this is normal or just a cheap seat. There is no rear protection like a bumper so it will tear up quick if it hits the blacktop. A little bumper could be made to hook to the seat rails I figure. For me at least this is a huge step in the right direction. Without bars to keep you in place tho, this would be useless.

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                          • #14
                            Its a shows some of the "saddle experimentation" that was going on on here in 2008 and 2009 in a couple of threads on here.
                            For sure, this is not the first time we've been down this road.

                            I don't dislike my current flat saddles, still working on the foam, shaved the Nimbus flat saddle last night and it was comfortable when I did a test sit.

                            I think there needs to be some resistance to forward motion, both to prevent sliding on the seat and to give the pelvis a place to "push off". All of my seats, even the Flatfish, have a little swoop in the center; totally flat felt tippy and unstable.

                            I have Thompson posts on both my unis so it's an easy thing to play with seats, for the bar I'll have to get a stoker bar and shim it to fit my seat post...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by brycer1968 View Post
                              I think that could be from Ken in Australia I think.

                              Its a shows some of the "saddle experimentation" that was going on on here in 2008 and 2009 in a couple of threads on here. I actually liked the way that my prototype 36er upper frames with rear set saddles felt and handled, though I ended up building a final version with a lot less relocation (like 5 inches or so). I must have tried 4-5 different configurations to find comfort, strength and adjustability for aero bar 36ers that you can ride with elbows in the aero bar elbow cups.

                              Bryce
                              I'm 'in' New Zealand, but I work in Australia.

                              Yes, that is indeed my uni.

                              The bike seat would have worked fine if it had a decent handle and was just a little bit longer.

                              The NNC Flatfish takes care of all that. The best of a bike seat combined with the stability and handle of a unicycle seat.

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