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  • December 7th, 1941

    Pearl Harbor
    It all started on the seventh of December,
    A day that we all should forever remember.
    From out of the sky, so blue,
    Scores of Kamikazes flew.

    The sailors below took their positions,
    They boldly fought under fierce conditions.
    Fires rapidly consumed ships as men jumped over the sides
    Falling into the sea to be at the mercy of the tides.

    Airmen jumped into their planes ready to take flight
    Flying high, they sped, ready for the horrific fight.
    They attacked with massive power and speed
    Giving the enemy no time to heed

    At the end of the day, many men were lost
    Their valiant sacrifice came at a cost.
    We always remember
    That fateful December
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  • #2
    I seem to remember (and a quick Google search verifies) that kamikaze suicide tactics were NOT used at Pearl Harbor, rendering your fourth line incorrect. Primarily, bombs were dropped in order to sink ships and destroy planes. Kamikaze tactics were used later in the war primarily against American ships, as the military situation grew more and more desperate for the Japanese.

    I do remember seeing a history channel special about some people that thought the Japanese might have used one or more midget submarines during the Pearl Harbor attack, and the evidence for their claim. Very interesting show.
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    • #3
      It all started on the 7th of December, eh?
      My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world. - Jack Layton

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      • #4
        Originally posted by saskatchewanian View Post
        It all started on the 7th of December, eh?
        Haha yeah, I guess some non-Americans forget the war actually started in 1939.
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        • #5
          Well, I am not writing on the war. I am writing on Pearl Harbor.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pigs on Unicycles View Post
            Well, I am not writing on the war. I am writing on Pearl Harbor.
            OK I see!

            (I wasn't accusing you...lol...I thought that you'd found that poem somewhere else!)
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pigs on Unicycles View Post
              Well, I am not writing on the war. I am writing on Pearl Harbor.
              You should at least try to be historically accurate. I mean your poem says that it ended that night. So if it started and ended the same date. If you're only talking about the Pearl Harbor attack an event that lasted a single day. You wouldn't say that it started that day, you'd just say it happened that day.

              It's hard not to think that you didn't mean the war started on December 7th, 1941 and that's just not true.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SqueakyOnion View Post
                I do remember seeing a history channel special about some people that thought the Japanese might have used one or more midget submarines during the Pearl Harbor attack...
                The picture at the bottom of this post is of a manned torpedo, which I believe was Japanese-made. It is at the Pearl Harbor Memorial, just outside the submarine. I can't remember the history of it though; whether any were used at Pearl Harbor (I don't think so). I also can't remember if it was a suicide device, or if there was a way for the pilot to "bail" before sending it on its final run.

                Originally posted by saskatchewanian View Post
                It all started on the 7th of December, eh?
                The attack on Pearl Harbor? I think so. Of course there was a lot of planning by the attackers, but the planes definitely took off after midnight...

                Originally posted by SirSkillz View Post
                Haha yeah, I guess some non-Americans forget the war actually started in 1939.
                A lot of Americans probably couldn't even tell you the start or end dates. And if you think the war started in 1939 you obviously didn't experience it in China or one of the many other countries already occupied by the Nazis by that time.

                Originally posted by ThisGuyIKnow View Post
                You wouldn't say that it started that day, you'd just say it happened that day.
                Sheesh, it's just a poem! The war (for the USA) started on that day, and the attack happened on that day.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by johnfoss View Post
                  A lot of Americans probably couldn't even tell you the start or end dates. And if you think the war started in 1939 you obviously didn't experience it in China or one of the many other countries already occupied by the Nazis by that time.
                  I just realized I miss worded my first post, so I said what I didn't mean. And I was just going by the traditional 1939-1945 dates.

                  China was occupied by the Nazis?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SirSkillz View Post
                    China was occupied by the Nazis?
                    From an American I would expect that to be an honest question. Hopefully for Canada's sake, you were trying to be funny?

                    While the Nazis did a lot of occupying in the early days, it was with less fighting and more lies and broken promises. In China the Japanes did a lot more stuff along the atrocities line. The Nazis caught up later.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by johnfoss View Post
                      The picture at the bottom of this post is of a manned torpedo, which I believe was Japanese-made. It is at the Pearl Harbor Memorial, just outside the submarine. I can't remember the history of it though; whether any were used at Pearl Harbor (I don't think so). I also can't remember if it was a suicide device, or if there was a way for the pilot to "bail" before sending it on its final run.
                      Ah yes that's the one I believe. The proponents of the sub theory cited a photograph taken during the attack. There is a whitecap and shadow vaguely in the shape of a sub pointing towards the battleships. The photo was grainy, they did an un-scientifically controlled "experiment" via re-enactment, and concluded nothing other than "well, maybe, in typical History-channel fence-sitting.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SqueakyOnion View Post
                        ...and concluded nothing other than "well, maybe, in typical History-channel fence-sitting.
                        I lost my faith in the History Channel when they started showing more and more UFO and ghost-"sighting" shows. This is history?

                        For the mini-sub, I'm sure there's information about it online, though I believe the information they had on the example at Pearl Harbor was fairly sketchy as well.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by johnfoss View Post
                          I lost my faith in the History Channel when they started showing more and more UFO and ghost-"sighting" shows. This is history?
                          What? For you, ghosts come from the future?

                          The conventional thinking is that ghosts are dead, hence, a part of history.

                          All recorded UFO sightings have already happened, hence they are also history.

                          What are you thinking?
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                          • #14
                            The conventional thinking is that ghosts are fiction. But the shows are not about ghost fiction, nor are they about ghost lore. They pretend to be in haunted places yet never manage to see or record anything of substance.

                            Basically same for UFOs, but the definition of UFO allows for plenty of legitimate sightings of stuff that just can't be identified. But little to no real evidence, hence more fiction.

                            Mostly I object to the presentation of "crap" nonsense alongside shows that are about factual events, without any disclaimers or admission that those other shows are not about factual events.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by johnfoss View Post
                              The conventional thinking is that ghosts are fiction. But the shows are not about ghost fiction, nor are they about ghost lore. They pretend to be in haunted places yet never manage to see or record anything of substance.

                              Basically same for UFOs, but the definition of UFO allows for plenty of legitimate sightings of stuff that just can't be identified. But little to no real evidence, hence more fiction.

                              Mostly I object to the presentation of "crap" nonsense alongside shows that are about factual events, without any disclaimers or admission that those other shows are not about factual events.
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